Grouing an outlet
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grounding an outlet
Where do you ground the other side of the copper ground wire from an outlet, i have a fuse box not a circut breaker. i know how to add outlets but just not sure where to ground the copper wire at, any help would be Great. thanx alot!
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I'm interpreting that you added a new circuit to the fuse panel, and the new romex cable has a grounding wire that you do not see on other cables from decades ago.
There are multiple options, wait for several of the proven advisers to reply later today.
The old cables that have a grounding conductor will have it wrapped around one of the screws on the romex clamp, which in not a safe, reliable connection.
To meet the requirements of the code (NEC),
the ground should be connected along with the neutral.
I would normally install a grounding buss, however I'd like to know the answer to the question myself, provided by others experienced with combining modern wiring into old, antequated panels.
gj
(I normally replace old fuse panels, not needing to worry about this issue. Replacement is typically warranted due to modernizing of appliances throughout homes, and needing more circuits that the structure of an old panel cannot provide.)
There are multiple options, wait for several of the proven advisers to reply later today.
The old cables that have a grounding conductor will have it wrapped around one of the screws on the romex clamp, which in not a safe, reliable connection.
To meet the requirements of the code (NEC),
the ground should be connected along with the neutral.
I would normally install a grounding buss, however I'd like to know the answer to the question myself, provided by others experienced with combining modern wiring into old, antequated panels.
gj
(I normally replace old fuse panels, not needing to worry about this issue. Replacement is typically warranted due to modernizing of appliances throughout homes, and needing more circuits that the structure of an old panel cannot provide.)
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Well our window ac was blowing fuses for years, at first we thought it was because there was too many things on the circut. so i decided to hop in the dirty od crawl space and run a new wire and keep the window ac on its old circut but when i took the old outlet out i notice there was no ground wire which i thought that may be the problem but with all the old wireing only had the 2 wires. so anyone know where i should connect the copper wire?
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I see no correlation whatsoever between improper grounding and blown fuses. I suspect that your problem may come back. I think your original guess of too much on one circuit was the correct answer.
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nope it was the grounding, i would blow every 5-10 mins even tho it was on its own circut so i grounded it now, and its been running all day with no problems
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Lets put it this way. It shouldnt be the grounding!! Grounding is a great thing to have, but operation of equipment does not depend on grounding. Equipment grounding is there for one reason only, to provide a low impedance path for current in the event of a fault. With no fault, the ground does absolutely nothing. Equipment operation does not rely on an equipment ground. I agree with John Nelson and believe your problem will return.
Believe it or not.. there are systems that are totally ungrounded!!
Have you done anything else to this circuit?
Heaven forbid you replaced the fuse with one that is larger!
Believe it or not.. there are systems that are totally ungrounded!!
Have you done anything else to this circuit?
Heaven forbid you replaced the fuse with one that is larger!
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no all i did was add a ground copper wire. i was reading the tag on the ac and it says must be plugged into a grounded outlet. so i added the ground wire now it works great. before the most we could get out of the ac was like 5-6 mins. now its been on for hours and no problems at all. i do heating and cooling for a living so i asked my boss and he said yup that was your problem, so all i know is it works great now!!!