Kitchen Gas Appliances - Oven Burner Problems
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littlecreatures
07-07-02, 07:05 PM
A have a Caloric gas range with dual ovens. Model number RSD398-UL. It's self-cleaning. The problem is that neither ove or the broiler will fire. The igniters glow but the ovens and broiler won't fire. I'm looking for some advice to troubleshoot. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Sharp Advice
07-07-02, 09:55 PM
Hello littlecreatures and Welcome to our Do It Yourself Web Site and my Gas Appliances forum.
It's possible the tiny isolation gas supply valve is turned off. It's possible this valve got turned off accidentially during a cleaning and or recent minor repair.
This tiny valve supplies gas to the ovens. It's usually located under the stove top cover near the left side top burners. It will be on the main supply manifold pipe under the cover.
Another possible location could be directly on the stoves appliance regulator or near by. Many models locate the valve in any number of places. Look for it under the bottom covers in either of the ovens, etc.
There could be any other number of possible causes but lets assume the easiest possible causes first.
Suggestions:
Read the manufacturers online web site for product information, problem possibilities, causes and solving methods, part locations, disassembly, reassembly methods, repair proceedures, and instructions, pictorials and schematics, which may be available online.
An excellent source for orginal replacement parts is your local retail appliance parts store. Parts dealers are listed in the phone book under appliances.
Retail parts dealers can also help determine what the possible problem may be. Bring the make, model and serial numbers and stop in at the store. The info will help to determine the possible problem causes.
Read the prior topics, within this forum and the replies offered.
If you need further assistance, use the REPLY button. By doing so, the additional information you add or questions you may have, will remain within this posting. Using this method also moves the topic back up to the top of the list automatically.
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It's possible the tiny isolation gas supply valve is turned off. It's possible this valve got turned off accidentially during a cleaning and or recent minor repair.
This tiny valve supplies gas to the ovens. It's usually located under the stove top cover near the left side top burners. It will be on the main supply manifold pipe under the cover.
Another possible location could be directly on the stoves appliance regulator or near by. Many models locate the valve in any number of places. Look for it under the bottom covers in either of the ovens, etc.
There could be any other number of possible causes but lets assume the easiest possible causes first.
Suggestions:
Read the manufacturers online web site for product information, problem possibilities, causes and solving methods, part locations, disassembly, reassembly methods, repair proceedures, and instructions, pictorials and schematics, which may be available online.
An excellent source for orginal replacement parts is your local retail appliance parts store. Parts dealers are listed in the phone book under appliances.
Retail parts dealers can also help determine what the possible problem may be. Bring the make, model and serial numbers and stop in at the store. The info will help to determine the possible problem causes.
Read the prior topics, within this forum and the replies offered.
If you need further assistance, use the REPLY button. By doing so, the additional information you add or questions you may have, will remain within this posting. Using this method also moves the topic back up to the top of the list automatically.
Regards & Good Luck
Gas Appliances Forum Moderator
Tom_Bart........"Fast, Fair, Friendly & Highly Proficient"......:D
TCB4U2B2B.....Company Enterprises.
Energy Conservation Consulting Services & Gas Appliance Problem Diagnostics and Technician Services.
littlecreatures
07-08-02, 03:45 AM
Thanks for the advice. I'll giv it a try and get back.
littlecreatures
07-08-02, 05:47 PM
Tom
Just wanted to get back to you with some feedback on your advice and some change in symptoms. I believe I located two gas isolation supplies. They were next to what appeared to be a gas regulator located on what I would call the range manifold. They were brass with toggles. I worked the brass toggles a few times back and forth and check all the electrical connentions. Even the ones to the gas valve. I proceeded to try the ovens and broiler. All ignited. The top took about 40 seconds while the lower oven and the broiler took over 2 minutes. The lower contains the broiler. I was hoping that this would help isolate the problem further.
Also, I did try to go online and get data from the manufacturers web sites. Amana/Caloric had little or no available data. If you have any links tat you could suggest I'd appreciate it.
Just wanted to get back to you with some feedback on your advice and some change in symptoms. I believe I located two gas isolation supplies. They were next to what appeared to be a gas regulator located on what I would call the range manifold. They were brass with toggles. I worked the brass toggles a few times back and forth and check all the electrical connentions. Even the ones to the gas valve. I proceeded to try the ovens and broiler. All ignited. The top took about 40 seconds while the lower oven and the broiler took over 2 minutes. The lower contains the broiler. I was hoping that this would help isolate the problem further.
Also, I did try to go online and get data from the manufacturers web sites. Amana/Caloric had little or no available data. If you have any links tat you could suggest I'd appreciate it.
Sharp Advice
07-08-02, 06:32 PM
Hello: littlecreatures
Your doing a good job both explaining the symptoms and attempting to locate & correct the problems.
A hot glow coil, working correctly, will glow an intense bright yellow orange in color. Too much orange, any reddish color or a dull orange color indicates the glow ignition part is weak.
The burner with the glow ignition that takes 2 minutes to fireup the burner is considered a weak ignition. The glow coil, glow bar or hot surface ignition, {whichever anyone else reading this topic refers to it as} is weak and must be replaced, to ensure proper operation in a timely manner.
Turn off the electrical power to the entire appliance, carefully remove that glow coil or glow bar and replace it with another new part.
Handle the new part gently and carefully. The part is brittle and breaks easily. They are non refundable part, so be sure it's tested at the parts store to verify it does in fact work.
First posting contains the suggestion on how and where to obtain the replacement part. No links available.
Your doing a good job both explaining the symptoms and attempting to locate & correct the problems.
A hot glow coil, working correctly, will glow an intense bright yellow orange in color. Too much orange, any reddish color or a dull orange color indicates the glow ignition part is weak.
The burner with the glow ignition that takes 2 minutes to fireup the burner is considered a weak ignition. The glow coil, glow bar or hot surface ignition, {whichever anyone else reading this topic refers to it as} is weak and must be replaced, to ensure proper operation in a timely manner.
Turn off the electrical power to the entire appliance, carefully remove that glow coil or glow bar and replace it with another new part.
Handle the new part gently and carefully. The part is brittle and breaks easily. They are non refundable part, so be sure it's tested at the parts store to verify it does in fact work.
First posting contains the suggestion on how and where to obtain the replacement part. No links available.
littlecreatures
07-08-02, 06:44 PM
Tom,
Thanks again for the prompt response. I'll make a visit to the local appliance parts store and try it. i'll get back to you and let you know how it goes.
Thanks again for the prompt response. I'll make a visit to the local appliance parts store and try it. i'll get back to you and let you know how it goes.
littlecreatures
07-11-02, 06:26 PM
Tom,
Just want to let you know that your advice was right on the money. I replaced the lower bake igniter and was back in business. Thanks for all you help and I will be sure to share your web site with my family and friends. Thanks again.
Just want to let you know that your advice was right on the money. I replaced the lower bake igniter and was back in business. Thanks for all you help and I will be sure to share your web site with my family and friends. Thanks again.
Sharp Advice
07-11-02, 07:20 PM
THANKS FOR POSTING THE UPDATE & CONCLUSION.
The Forum Appreciates Hearing Success Stories!...:)
Hello Again & Thanks Littlecreatures.
On behalf of myself and everyone who contributes helpful suggestions, solutions and advice within this forum and on the web site, I'd like to express our thanks to you for taking your valuable time replying back in the forum. Doing so allows everyone reading the topic the opportunity to learn more.
Glad you had successful results resolving the problem. Thanks also for including the correctional method used & the part replaced to achived the correctional results.
Regards and Thanks
Forum Host & Moderator
Tom_Bart.....TCB4U2B2B Enterprises
Energy Conservation Consultant & Natural Gas Appliance Diagnostics Technician.
The Forum Appreciates Hearing Success Stories!...:)
Hello Again & Thanks Littlecreatures.
On behalf of myself and everyone who contributes helpful suggestions, solutions and advice within this forum and on the web site, I'd like to express our thanks to you for taking your valuable time replying back in the forum. Doing so allows everyone reading the topic the opportunity to learn more.
Glad you had successful results resolving the problem. Thanks also for including the correctional method used & the part replaced to achived the correctional results.
Regards and Thanks
Forum Host & Moderator
Tom_Bart.....TCB4U2B2B Enterprises
Energy Conservation Consultant & Natural Gas Appliance Diagnostics Technician.