Patching and Plastering - Shower ceiling drywall ... new paint is peeling
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hughes1115
03-16-01, 05:28 PM
Good evening ... just regrouted, sanded, primed, then final coat painted the ceiling of my shower stall ... used Sherwin Williams ... EverClean (I think). After two weeks the paint is starting to crack and peel ... in the area that had been bad before.
Should I cut the bad area out and replace with Greenboard?
Thanks for your time and thoughts.
Jim Hughes
Michigan
Should I cut the bad area out and replace with Greenboard?
Thanks for your time and thoughts.
Jim Hughes
Michigan
03-17-01, 07:06 AM
Jim
I would say tear the ceiling out and also replace any insulation above the ceiling, then I would think about installing a exhaust fan in the ceiling, then go ahead and put your greenboard up, after tape and mud, use Durabond 45 in the brown bags to tape and mud also use paper tape put down a good bed coat then tape finish up with topping, sand to a smooth finish, prime and paint
Good Luck
Frank
Frankawitz Custom Painting &
Plastering Repairs
I would say tear the ceiling out and also replace any insulation above the ceiling, then I would think about installing a exhaust fan in the ceiling, then go ahead and put your greenboard up, after tape and mud, use Durabond 45 in the brown bags to tape and mud also use paper tape put down a good bed coat then tape finish up with topping, sand to a smooth finish, prime and paint
Good Luck
Frank
Frankawitz Custom Painting &
Plastering Repairs
hughes1115
03-17-01, 10:57 AM
Good Afternoon Frank ...
Thank you for the fine info. I have a ceiling fan ... but I have not checked the backside of the ceiling drywall yet; I will do so.
I bet I will have to take the drywall out ... I will follow your instructions to a 'T.'
Thanks for the advice & time.
Take care.
Jim Hughes
Michigan
Thank you for the fine info. I have a ceiling fan ... but I have not checked the backside of the ceiling drywall yet; I will do so.
I bet I will have to take the drywall out ... I will follow your instructions to a 'T.'
Thanks for the advice & time.
Take care.
Jim Hughes
Michigan
04-09-01, 07:36 AM
The exhaust fan is no doubt necessary to preserve whatever repair you elect for the long run. I recently encountered a paint peeling problem in a bath with plaster walls and came up with the following solution:
I used fiberglass mesh much like the repair tape, except it comes in 3ft wide rolls @ 49.00 a roll. In a bath you would probably only need 1 roll (I forget the linear ft), and parged 3 thin mud coats over that. The result was great and eliminated all the hassle of demo, re-applying trim,etc.
Certainly, if the sheetrock id=s too badly compromised it must be replaced, but this method sure was a nice compromise in time, quality and materials.
I used fiberglass mesh much like the repair tape, except it comes in 3ft wide rolls @ 49.00 a roll. In a bath you would probably only need 1 roll (I forget the linear ft), and parged 3 thin mud coats over that. The result was great and eliminated all the hassle of demo, re-applying trim,etc.
Certainly, if the sheetrock id=s too badly compromised it must be replaced, but this method sure was a nice compromise in time, quality and materials.
hughes1115
04-09-01, 04:19 PM
Good Evening ...
Thank you very much for your help and time.
As soon as the weather gets a bit better so I can open up I will try your technique. I will advise my results. Sounds like a timesaver to me.
Thank you.
Jim Hughes
Thank you very much for your help and time.
As soon as the weather gets a bit better so I can open up I will try your technique. I will advise my results. Sounds like a timesaver to me.
Thank you.
Jim Hughes
04-10-01, 06:30 AM
Guys
Here's something to think about Black Mold, some folks get deathly sick others don't, Fin as for your repair, we had a job a few years back in a home that the home owner listen to someone to do something like you talked about, well this was a living room ceiling that was 25' x 20' The leak was caused by a toilet in master bath, well the plumber said he fixed the leak, the Plasterer came in and applied a three coat plaster, over the original plaster ceiling, then to top it off the toilet leaked again now it ruined both plaster ceilings, So what do you do? well these clowns put up wire mesh and apply another three coat plaster ceiling,
Well dig this the toilet leaked again, Well we went in and cut the ceiling out to exspose the plumbing, well dam the iron pipe was cracked, the plumbers came in fixed it the right way this time, well I told the home owner what was going on with the ceiling, he told us to take it down just because of the weight 2200lbs,Also there were other spots in the ceiling that were failing, well to go and remove a small bath room ceiling and remove any mold, this could also be the reason your paint will not stick, or if you mud over this problem and then you go and paint and the mud and paint comes off you'll have a great time, I would go for removing at least you know what's going on the back side of the ceiling,Maybe you have a roof leak that is keep the rock lath wet, which in turn will let the mold grown and the paint wouldn't stick.
Good Luck
Frank
Frankawitz Custom Painting &
Plastering Repairs
Here's something to think about Black Mold, some folks get deathly sick others don't, Fin as for your repair, we had a job a few years back in a home that the home owner listen to someone to do something like you talked about, well this was a living room ceiling that was 25' x 20' The leak was caused by a toilet in master bath, well the plumber said he fixed the leak, the Plasterer came in and applied a three coat plaster, over the original plaster ceiling, then to top it off the toilet leaked again now it ruined both plaster ceilings, So what do you do? well these clowns put up wire mesh and apply another three coat plaster ceiling,
Well dig this the toilet leaked again, Well we went in and cut the ceiling out to exspose the plumbing, well dam the iron pipe was cracked, the plumbers came in fixed it the right way this time, well I told the home owner what was going on with the ceiling, he told us to take it down just because of the weight 2200lbs,Also there were other spots in the ceiling that were failing, well to go and remove a small bath room ceiling and remove any mold, this could also be the reason your paint will not stick, or if you mud over this problem and then you go and paint and the mud and paint comes off you'll have a great time, I would go for removing at least you know what's going on the back side of the ceiling,Maybe you have a roof leak that is keep the rock lath wet, which in turn will let the mold grown and the paint wouldn't stick.
Good Luck
Frank
Frankawitz Custom Painting &
Plastering Repairs
hughes1115
04-10-01, 04:04 PM
Good Evening ...
Thank you for your time and thoughts.
My drywall is fine ... I checked the backside and all is dry and solid, not a scratch, flake, or moist area.
I looked at the entire area backside by climbing into the attic and looking at the drywall from the backside.
No mold is or was ever present.
When the weather gets better I'll resand, try the Durabond 45 and go at it.
Thanks again ..
Jim Hughes
Thank you for your time and thoughts.
My drywall is fine ... I checked the backside and all is dry and solid, not a scratch, flake, or moist area.
I looked at the entire area backside by climbing into the attic and looking at the drywall from the backside.
No mold is or was ever present.
When the weather gets better I'll resand, try the Durabond 45 and go at it.
Thanks again ..
Jim Hughes