Painting - Paint Help
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kissyboots
10-28-09, 05:56 AM
I have attached two pictures of my master bath. They had a moisture issue in there previously as the vent pipes were laying on the ceiling in the attic and not being vented outside. We had the pipes vented outside so when everything dried out, this is what the one thin layer of paint decided to do.
We have sheet rock ceiling and the brown paper is in the attic so I am wondering what is this brown paper I am seeing under the paint? I am getting ready to scrape the paint, then prime and paint. I am just concerned that maybe the peeling paint is taking down the white cover of the sheet rock?
Here is a link to my pictures:
Picasa Web Albums - Linda - Repair (http://picasaweb.google.com/lindaw919/Repair#)
Thanks for the help!
We have sheet rock ceiling and the brown paper is in the attic so I am wondering what is this brown paper I am seeing under the paint? I am getting ready to scrape the paint, then prime and paint. I am just concerned that maybe the peeling paint is taking down the white cover of the sheet rock?
Here is a link to my pictures:
Picasa Web Albums - Linda - Repair (http://picasaweb.google.com/lindaw919/Repair#)
Thanks for the help!
marksr
10-28-09, 07:06 AM
"the brown paper is in the attic"
I'm not sure I understand :confused::o
Sheetrock consists of ground up gypsum sandwhiched between 2 sheets of paper. The face side paper is a greyish off white and the paper on the back is brown/tan. The joints are taped and finished with joint compound, the nails/screws are also covered with j/c which is white in color.
From what I see in the pics, I'd scrape off everything that's loose. If the underlying drywall is chalky [leaves residue on your finger] and you can't clean it off - use an oil base primer first. Otherwise, use j/c to feather in the transision from the peeled paint to the stuck paint. Sand as needed an prime [latex primer is ok for this] Since there have already been moisture issues, I'd recomend using a kitchen and bath enamel.
I'm not sure I understand :confused::o
Sheetrock consists of ground up gypsum sandwhiched between 2 sheets of paper. The face side paper is a greyish off white and the paper on the back is brown/tan. The joints are taped and finished with joint compound, the nails/screws are also covered with j/c which is white in color.
From what I see in the pics, I'd scrape off everything that's loose. If the underlying drywall is chalky [leaves residue on your finger] and you can't clean it off - use an oil base primer first. Otherwise, use j/c to feather in the transision from the peeled paint to the stuck paint. Sand as needed an prime [latex primer is ok for this] Since there have already been moisture issues, I'd recomend using a kitchen and bath enamel.
kissyboots
10-28-09, 07:29 AM
Sorry. :) The brown backing paper is what you see in the attic so the side I see in the bathroom should be white/gray. The paint that is coming off seems to have some type of texture pattern on the back of it which I feel sure is just the pattern from what residue they left from the last paint job. Most likely it's calcimine residue since they have that stuff everywhere, even under the painted walls which is causing all the paint to just bubble and peel off using my finger in very large sheets.
I have some Bullseye primer I used in my last bathroom from our previous house and it worked well there in a very humid, small bathroom. Well guess it's time to break out the scraper and my mask and get to it. :)
They didn't use any type of mud tape or compound on the ceiling. There are gaps between the walls and ceiling sheet rock so I will need to fill those in before I prime.
I have some Bullseye primer I used in my last bathroom from our previous house and it worked well there in a very humid, small bathroom. Well guess it's time to break out the scraper and my mask and get to it. :)
They didn't use any type of mud tape or compound on the ceiling. There are gaps between the walls and ceiling sheet rock so I will need to fill those in before I prime.
marksr
10-28-09, 12:39 PM
"They didn't use any type of mud tape or compound on the ceiling" :eek::wall::eek:
You will need to use paper tape, fold it and embed it in the j/c. If it's a small gap and you don't feel up to the tape and finish process, you could caulk the gap. Tape and mud is the correct way to finish it but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do :D
You will need to use paper tape, fold it and embed it in the j/c. If it's a small gap and you don't feel up to the tape and finish process, you could caulk the gap. Tape and mud is the correct way to finish it but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do :D
kissyboots
11-05-09, 06:19 AM
No they didn't use anything between the walls and ceiling. There are gaps when you remove the wallpaper. They did use tape on the walk in closet which is on the other side of the bathroom but the tape is not flush. They just painted over the tape and with time the gaps have bubbled outwards. So I will need to remove the old tape and put some in flush so the seams are smooth.
I am fighting with wallpaper glue on the ceiling in our master bedroom. They put what looks like contact paper on the ceiling in another bathroom and painted over that. This is a mess.
I've tried very hot water with dish washing liquid to remove the glue and while it does become gummy it is taking forever to scrape because they painted the ceiling with a brush and left a lot of marks and there is only a layer of paint under the wallpaper then sheet rock so in a couple of places I have some repair work to do after the paper removal. If anyone knows of a trick to get this glue off quicker and easier please let me know because this is taking forever working on the ceiling.
I am fighting with wallpaper glue on the ceiling in our master bedroom. They put what looks like contact paper on the ceiling in another bathroom and painted over that. This is a mess.
I've tried very hot water with dish washing liquid to remove the glue and while it does become gummy it is taking forever to scrape because they painted the ceiling with a brush and left a lot of marks and there is only a layer of paint under the wallpaper then sheet rock so in a couple of places I have some repair work to do after the paper removal. If anyone knows of a trick to get this glue off quicker and easier please let me know because this is taking forever working on the ceiling.
marksr
11-05-09, 06:48 AM
Removing wallpaper and it's adhesive is rarely fun :wall:.... and takes more elbow grease than most can afford :eek:
If for some reason you are unable to remove all the adhesive, prime the walls/ceiling with either zinnser's garz or most any oil base primer. Once the primer is dry you can apply a thin skim coat of joint compound, sand and prime when dry.
If for some reason you are unable to remove all the adhesive, prime the walls/ceiling with either zinnser's garz or most any oil base primer. Once the primer is dry you can apply a thin skim coat of joint compound, sand and prime when dry.