Lumber and Siding - Scaffolding for second floor gable end work?
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suobs
10-24-09, 09:53 AM
I'd like to do some awkward but straightforward work on the second floor gable end of my house, which is over another 1st story pitched roof (photo below). I need to add new sheathing and replace the lap cedar siding (there is currently no sheathing under the cedar lap).
As you can see from the photo, there's no way to do this from a ladder. I have no experience with scaffolding, so I have the following questions:
1) Can this be safely accessed with scaffolding?
2) Are there companies who rent and will erect scaffolding for a week or so and take it down?
3) Roughly how much would scaffolding rental/setup cost?
4) Are there other options I'm not seeing?
I've considered a boom on a trailer but I don't think I could get it close enough due to obstructions. The lawn in the left foreground is over the septic drainfield, plus it would be a very long reach from there anyway, as it would be from the back over the screen porch.
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab83/sbousqu/PA230069.jpg
As you can see from the photo, there's no way to do this from a ladder. I have no experience with scaffolding, so I have the following questions:
1) Can this be safely accessed with scaffolding?
2) Are there companies who rent and will erect scaffolding for a week or so and take it down?
3) Roughly how much would scaffolding rental/setup cost?
4) Are there other options I'm not seeing?
I've considered a boom on a trailer but I don't think I could get it close enough due to obstructions. The lawn in the left foreground is over the septic drainfield, plus it would be a very long reach from there anyway, as it would be from the back over the screen porch.
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab83/sbousqu/PA230069.jpg
nap
10-24-09, 10:05 AM
if money is not an object:
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they make them 135 feet long so reaching in your situation would not be a problem, just the expense.
How far is it from the furthest point to where you could set a boom lift? and how hiigh is the peak?
It looks like there is a driveway as well. How far from the corner of the house (under the balcony by that outcropping of brick) to that driveway?
what kind of work are you doing? A ladder can be used to reach any point of the gable. In fact, two ladders with ladder jacks and planks would be a relatively cheap set-up. there are ladders that can be used on the slope such as you have or components that can be used to adapt the ladder to the slope.
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they make them 135 feet long so reaching in your situation would not be a problem, just the expense.
How far is it from the furthest point to where you could set a boom lift? and how hiigh is the peak?
It looks like there is a driveway as well. How far from the corner of the house (under the balcony by that outcropping of brick) to that driveway?
what kind of work are you doing? A ladder can be used to reach any point of the gable. In fact, two ladders with ladder jacks and planks would be a relatively cheap set-up. there are ladders that can be used on the slope such as you have or components that can be used to adapt the ladder to the slope.
suobs
10-24-09, 10:38 AM
Yes there's a circular gravel driveway just to the right of the photo.
The first floor peak is about 18 feet high, the second floor peak is 26 feet high.
From the wall corner under the balcony to the drive is about 30 feet
Distance to the first floor peak (I'm thinking it's the farthest distance) from the closest part of the driveway is about 45 feet but that's on about a 30 degree diagonal, so say 50-55 feet.
If there were a significant cost difference I could probably take out a couple of the shrubs adn park it on the lawn to the right, making the hoz. distance to the first floor peak about 35-45 feet.
Not to suggest at all that cost is no object! It has to be a good bit cheaper than having someone do it for me.
I'd be interested to know how you would access the gable end if I hired you to do the work . . .
The first floor peak is about 18 feet high, the second floor peak is 26 feet high.
From the wall corner under the balcony to the drive is about 30 feet
Distance to the first floor peak (I'm thinking it's the farthest distance) from the closest part of the driveway is about 45 feet but that's on about a 30 degree diagonal, so say 50-55 feet.
If there were a significant cost difference I could probably take out a couple of the shrubs adn park it on the lawn to the right, making the hoz. distance to the first floor peak about 35-45 feet.
Not to suggest at all that cost is no object! It has to be a good bit cheaper than having someone do it for me.
I'd be interested to know how you would access the gable end if I hired you to do the work . . .
nap
10-24-09, 10:56 AM
what needs to be done?
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ignore that last statement, and this one. I could not post just "what needs to be done?" due to a minimum length of post requirement of 25 letters.
minimum message 25 letters?
ignore that last statement, and this one. I could not post just "what needs to be done?" due to a minimum length of post requirement of 25 letters.
nap
10-24-09, 11:13 AM
I went back and read what you are doing.
Here is what I would do:
basically this set up (only two ladders since it is not so wide:
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and using these on the ladders for the angle:
Werner Ladder - Accessories (http://www.wernerladder.com/catalog/details.php?series_id=340)
Here is what I would do:
basically this set up (only two ladders since it is not so wide:
Google Image Result for http://base-images.cygnuspub.com/images/Products/COND/2008/Jul/300x300/QualCraftInd_QualcraftLadderJa_COND_0.png (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://base-images.cygnuspub.com/images/Products/COND/2008/Jul/300x300/QualCraftInd_QualcraftLadderJa_COND_0.png&imgrefurl=http://directory.constructiondistribution.com/product/60740/Qual-Craft_Industries_Qual-craft_Ladder_Jack_Scaffolding&usg=__njPUSAFdGHrJ7fVZCXn9_S6UOAU=&h=300&w=300&sz=71&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=6gEVkxAqwNMuaM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dladder%2Bjack%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1C1GGLS_enUS328US328%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1)
and using these on the ladders for the angle:
Werner Ladder - Accessories (http://www.wernerladder.com/catalog/details.php?series_id=340)
chandler
10-24-09, 04:18 PM
You could also set up a 24' ladder just under the first horizontal board of the gable, use a ladder jack and a 24' walk board to transverse across to the peak of the other roof. Not sure if you would be comfortable with that or not, but you could reach the entire span and almost reach the peak standing on the walk board.