Designing Kitchens and Bathrooms - cooktop over dishwasher?

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tamfitz
10-19-09, 01:31 PM
I am working on remodelling my 1950's kitchen. I'm planning a freestanding design. To save space, I would like to put a cooktop over a dishwasher and use an o.t.r. convection microwave. No stove (never use one much anyway). Is this even possible - for any kind of cooktop to be installed over a dishwasher?


ray2047
10-19-09, 02:59 PM
When you add the height of the dishwasher to the thickness of the range top that sets below the cabinet top your cabinet height would probably have to be at least six inches higher then normal.

tamfitz
10-20-09, 02:15 PM
There is an AEG model that has a cutout height of only 1.57".
Not sure if the dishwasher can go underneath because of any heat issues.
Also wondering about installations and if all the plugs and connections would fit. The guy at the appliance store told me it would work, but I don't really think he knew what I was on about.


HotinOKC
10-20-09, 02:24 PM
Find out the voltages for this cooktop. If it's 240v, then you will need a electrician to run a circuit for it as well.

Gunguy45
10-20-09, 02:29 PM
I'd never do it for a different reason.....

What if you want to start loading the DW while you are cooking. One mistake and you could have a gallon of boiling water and pasta on your arm.

tamfitz
10-20-09, 03:02 PM
Thanks guys. I'm going to make another trip to the appliance store and talk to an installer this time. I can't be the only person who's wanted to do this. Especially since convection microwaves.
I hope that appliance makers will realise that a lot of people out there don't really use ovens anymore.

HotinOKC
10-20-09, 04:17 PM
Thanks guys. I'm going to make another trip to the appliance store and talk to an installer this time. I can't be the only person who's wanted to do this. Especially since convection microwaves.
I hope that appliance makers will realise that a lot of people out there don't really use ovens anymore.

People don't use ovens anymore? :confused:

tamfitz
10-20-09, 05:18 PM
I meant - as much. Ovens aren't used as much as they were in the past.

dougm
10-29-09, 02:02 PM
Sorry so late... There are likely a number of code issues with a dishwasher under the stove, but you could put it under the sink if that would help. Look for GE model GSM2260NSS (stainless) or GSM2200N?? (?? = BB or WW) for Black or white. Many manufacturers also sell a smaller 19" dishwasher if that might help.

Doug M.

chandler
10-29-09, 03:20 PM
I find it difficult to believe you would have room to put a dishwasher under a sink and still have supply lines and drain. Check into that for me, dougm.
As far as the DW under a stove top....voice of experience....I did not have a stove top over mine, but the plastic body of the dishwasher began to cave in causing the washing arm over the top to hit dishes and the tray when it was moved. Frigidaire replaced the unit, and I note the new unit has a fan on top apparently to help cool the fiberglas down a bit. A stovetop over the DW would IMO exacerbate the problem of radiated heat.

dougm
10-29-09, 03:50 PM
chandler, Believe it. The dishwasher tub is odd shaped and jogs to fit around the sink basin and the drain connection. It's tight and there's no room for a disposal unless you only put the dishwasher under half the sink and put a disposal in the other half. If it's going under the whole sink, you have to do some carefull planning to get all the plumbing in the right places. It also isn't what I would call a top of the line model and the top rack is small, but sometimes any dishwasher is better than none.

Doug M.

chandler
10-29-09, 05:53 PM
I'd hate to stand in line for my bonus if I invented this! Falls right in there with the Edsel. Their literature shows a single sink. What they aren't showing is the ptrap is in the adjacent cabinet space. And the maximim depth of sink is 5". May work for an RV, but I doubt it will catch on in homes where the use is more. Good info, though.

Wayne Mitchell
10-30-09, 07:06 AM
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is resale. How many buyers are going to pass on a house with a kitchen designed the way you are planning.

BTW - I think you might be surprised at how many people use ovens.

CNTRTOP
10-30-09, 02:09 PM
If you don't need a full sized dishwasher, check out the Fisher & Paykel dishdrawer. They make it in single size which is about 18" tall. Check with the installer to see if it could be installed a few inches down. Possibly a drawer could be installed above it. Most electric cooktops are about 3" deep, which means 1 1/2" below bottom of countertop. Good luck