Doors and Windows - Replacing Sliding Glass door
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mbtechman
10-06-09, 07:08 PM
I need to have the a sliding door replaced and unsure of which brand to go with. The size is 72X80 which i believe is standard. The local lowes sells the pella for around $500 and a local lumber yard can order a anderson 200 series but the price is around $1100. I wanted to get vinyl as I dont want to have to paint. I dont understand why the pella is so much less as I think its a good brand. Any thoughts on which i should get or any other brand that is good. thanks
Gunguy45
10-07-09, 09:07 AM
$1100 seems pretty high for the Andersen, depending on options of course. Was that for the Narrowline or the Permashield? I'd check around a little.
The $500 Pella is a Pella in name only. Thats probably the cheap all vinyl door, really not in the same league as even the 200 series Andersen.
The $500 Pella is a Pella in name only. Thats probably the cheap all vinyl door, really not in the same league as even the 200 series Andersen.
mbtechman
10-24-09, 07:15 AM
$1100 seems pretty high for the Andersen, depending on options of course. Was that for the Narrowline or the Permashield? I'd check around a little.
The $500 Pella is a Pella in name only. Thats probably the cheap all vinyl door, really not in the same league as even the 200 series Andersen.
Hi, It is the 200 Series, PSGPD Double-wide Units
Unit Code/Item Size: PS510
Thanks for the help.
The $500 Pella is a Pella in name only. Thats probably the cheap all vinyl door, really not in the same league as even the 200 series Andersen.
Hi, It is the 200 Series, PSGPD Double-wide Units
Unit Code/Item Size: PS510
Thanks for the help.
Gunguy45
10-24-09, 02:25 PM
I put that exact door in at my last house. Very good quality..but it is a retrofit door in that size I think They don't even show that exact model at the Andersen website. It may be about 2" narrower and about 1" shorter than a standard new construction sliding door, IIRC. I used cellular vinyl trim planks to fill the gaps.
I still find the price excessive. When they were carried in the HD stores in VA..they were closer to $600-650. You did have to buy the handle set seperately, but that could range from $75-150 or so depending on style and finish. Since it was vinyl clad inside and out..most people stayed with the basic white stuff.
Even the website shows it at under $1100 with standard options and LoE glass. Most lumberyards, building supply and Big Box stores get a discount of 10-15% over the list price.
You are going to need to remove interior trim and get exact measurements of your rough opening to determine what size will fit best.
Again, there is no comparison between a $500 Pella and the Anderson. One is quality, one is overpriced and you are paying for the Pella name. Your locations and exact specs on the door (grilles, glass, hardware) can of course make a big difference.
I still find the price excessive. When they were carried in the HD stores in VA..they were closer to $600-650. You did have to buy the handle set seperately, but that could range from $75-150 or so depending on style and finish. Since it was vinyl clad inside and out..most people stayed with the basic white stuff.
Even the website shows it at under $1100 with standard options and LoE glass. Most lumberyards, building supply and Big Box stores get a discount of 10-15% over the list price.
You are going to need to remove interior trim and get exact measurements of your rough opening to determine what size will fit best.
Again, there is no comparison between a $500 Pella and the Anderson. One is quality, one is overpriced and you are paying for the Pella name. Your locations and exact specs on the door (grilles, glass, hardware) can of course make a big difference.
Claw Hammer
10-24-09, 09:27 PM
The Pella's sold in the Lowes is a Pella in name only.
I bought some Pella Windows because of their reputation from Lowes a couple of years ago when I was doing a total remodel of my own home and had to have the windows right now.
The only regret was that the windows I bought were too small and were a new construction window with a outside flange with the J channel already built in.
But I worked for a Bay window manufacturer and he could have gotten me new windows that had the jam extensions that would have fit - right out to the edge of the drywall and would not have required me having to make my own jam extensions.
My home is double plank construction and I used a 1/2 inch insulation board on the outside of the house and I used a 2 x 4 and 1/2 drywall on the inside of the house and the double planks are both 1 1/4 thick. So that made the wall 7+ inches thick. The windows were only 3 inches thick, so that leaves a 4 inch gap between the window and the wall.
After I installed them, I noticed on the label that they were a economy window and not the premium window. But they were 18 x 36 and were $99 each.
My opinion is - as long as it has good glass in it and as long as they open and shut with no problems and as long as they drain to the outside - what do I care who makes them, as long as I can get 30 years out of them.
In 30 years I will be 75 years old and probably won't care what kind of windows are in the house or how big they are.
If age is against you, I would advise to use the cheaper door.
If you want the door to last 40 years, I would probably look at the Anderson - as long as it was all vinyl construction with good rollers in it
The company I worked for also had a outside crew that replaced windows and they replaced old patio doors with moisture between the panes on a weekly basis..
I bought some Pella Windows because of their reputation from Lowes a couple of years ago when I was doing a total remodel of my own home and had to have the windows right now.
The only regret was that the windows I bought were too small and were a new construction window with a outside flange with the J channel already built in.
But I worked for a Bay window manufacturer and he could have gotten me new windows that had the jam extensions that would have fit - right out to the edge of the drywall and would not have required me having to make my own jam extensions.
My home is double plank construction and I used a 1/2 inch insulation board on the outside of the house and I used a 2 x 4 and 1/2 drywall on the inside of the house and the double planks are both 1 1/4 thick. So that made the wall 7+ inches thick. The windows were only 3 inches thick, so that leaves a 4 inch gap between the window and the wall.
After I installed them, I noticed on the label that they were a economy window and not the premium window. But they were 18 x 36 and were $99 each.
My opinion is - as long as it has good glass in it and as long as they open and shut with no problems and as long as they drain to the outside - what do I care who makes them, as long as I can get 30 years out of them.
In 30 years I will be 75 years old and probably won't care what kind of windows are in the house or how big they are.
If age is against you, I would advise to use the cheaper door.
If you want the door to last 40 years, I would probably look at the Anderson - as long as it was all vinyl construction with good rollers in it
The company I worked for also had a outside crew that replaced windows and they replaced old patio doors with moisture between the panes on a weekly basis..