Electronic Alarms and Home Security Devices - trouble adding second keypad to safewatch 3000

I have done some homework checked my wiring i have the installers code went to *190 set it to 1 then 0 even tried 2 then 0 my main keypad is the 5160 that came with the system the 5150 that I am trying to add is from my previously installed system that the adt guy advised to hold on to in case I wanted a second keypad. both the book and the installer said this keypad were compatible . i tried unhooking the first keypad to set option 190 to (ON) with the newly added keypad i looked for a dip switch to set the keypad id to 17 with no luck. but no matter what i do when i power up either keypad together they freeze and don't allow any function . I understand that I am basically stumped and am missing the obvious . but the installer manual is vague at best. any help would be greatly appreciated

when you power up the keypad press 1 & 3 at same time then you will put 17 then ** try this if no luck do 1 & 3 thing on the 1ST kp and see what no. it may be 17 so you may need to
go in to programing *191 set it to 1 then 0 *99 out and set the new kp to 18 with the 1 & 3 thing give it a shot :D

ok my first keypad is in fact set to 16 and the one i am trying to set said 00 so i pressed 17 and it then blinked back and forth ca then 17 with no way to get it to stop (**) so i walked away thinking it would miraculously fix itself it did in fact go back to the regular screen . keep in mind it is the only keypad hooked up since the two of them on at the same time freezes them . so when i went back to check if the address stuck (1 & 3) and now it flashes de then - and i tried to enter 17 and it only accepts a value of like 1 through 4 . so some how i set off a fire alarm and adt called . boy that was fast, and loud so how do i go from here? oh and by the way i cleared the fire alarm.

First of all, when tinkering, especially when you are not sure of procedures, _unplug the alarm from the phone lines!_

Next, verify your keypad model, it sounds like you may have a 6150RF or 6160RF which have a diffferent setup routine than the standard keypad model.

Using your original keypad, turn on address 17:
[installer code] + 8 + 00
*190 1 0
*99

If you have a standard (non-RF model) keypad, now connect the new keypad. Within 60 seconds press 1 + 3
The current keypad address is displayed
press 00
enter the new keypad address (17)
Press * until you exit keypad setup.

_If you have a RF model keypad_ the setup is _different_.

You need the manual if you don't have one:
http://www.alarmsuperstore.com/ademco/manuals/keypads/6150rf.pdf

http://nassausecurity.com/usermanuals/6160rfim.pdf

ok cool both keypads appear to be working and yes the keypad i am adding is a 6150rf guess i should have paid more attention. now both keypads flash fc will this failed communication clear itself or is there a method to this as well i tried my user code then 1 but nothing??

FC is failure to communicate. If you are done tinkering, plug the phone line back in.

If you are not actually being monitored by ADT, go into programming and enter *41*, *42* and *94* to delete the dialer phone numbers and turn off the communicator.

This panel is a modified Vista 20p. Websearch using the phrase "Vista 20p installer manual".

yes I am monitored by adt I plugged the phone line back in but I am still getting an fc code

It won't clear until a successful communication is sent. Call them, put your account on test for an hour or so, send a couple of alarms or panics.

I will do that thanks for all your help. there are a couple of things i am curious about... i saw a thread on controlling your garage door but didnt understand how or why. and how do you name your zones or is it even possible on my system?;)

A 6160 keypad will display zone descriptors (programmed using the *82 menu mode). The 6150 is a fixed english keypad, what you see is what you get.

The garage door trick has to do with using output programming to trigger a relay. The specifics depend on what external connections your garage door opener supports.