Patching and Plastering - Repair Semi-Destroyed Drywall for Ceramic Tile
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rraisley
04-26-09, 03:54 PM
My home was built 18 years ago, and they put ceramic tile on the 18" area between upper and lower kitchen cabinets. We're redoing countertops with granite, and I figured this was the time to "swap out" the ceramic tile.
Well, apparently they glued the tile on with liquid nails, as not only is the tile breaking and leaving lots of glue behind, but a major portion of the area has broken into the drywall, even broken completely through the entire 1/2" drywall. And there are lots of loose, broken areas as well.
I just need a solid base for new ceramic tile. How can I restore this to a reasonably solid and smooth-enough surfact to use mastic for my new tile? It is impractical (for me at least) to remove the drywall and put new in. I've thought about glueing some sort of thin board (1/8" masonite?) on the wall, but that would maybe make it too thick. I'm thinking of just mudding it in, filling the holes as best I can, and maybe mudding some screening material in for support and for strength.
Any ideas what a klutz can do to get himself out of this problem?
Well, apparently they glued the tile on with liquid nails, as not only is the tile breaking and leaving lots of glue behind, but a major portion of the area has broken into the drywall, even broken completely through the entire 1/2" drywall. And there are lots of loose, broken areas as well.
I just need a solid base for new ceramic tile. How can I restore this to a reasonably solid and smooth-enough surfact to use mastic for my new tile? It is impractical (for me at least) to remove the drywall and put new in. I've thought about glueing some sort of thin board (1/8" masonite?) on the wall, but that would maybe make it too thick. I'm thinking of just mudding it in, filling the holes as best I can, and maybe mudding some screening material in for support and for strength.
Any ideas what a klutz can do to get himself out of this problem?
marksr
04-27-09, 03:55 AM
Welcome to the forums!
How big are the holes in the drywall?
Generally the majority can be filled with joint compound or a setting compound like durabond. The holes can be fixed but how big they are will determine the method needed. Don't use masonite! You could laminate the area with 1/4" cement board.
How big are the holes in the drywall?
Generally the majority can be filled with joint compound or a setting compound like durabond. The holes can be fixed but how big they are will determine the method needed. Don't use masonite! You could laminate the area with 1/4" cement board.
rraisley
04-27-09, 06:00 AM
Welcome to the forums!
Thanks! Wish I was here under better circumstances! Guess I'll have to stick around after my problem is solved. :)
How big are the holes in the drywall?
Actual holes probably max out at 2" x 6". I'm more concerned where the paper is gone, and most/much of the rock is broken up and loose.
Generally the majority can be filled with joint compound or a setting compound like durabond. The holes can be fixed but how big they are will determine the method needed. Don't use masonite! You could laminate the area with 1/4" cement board.
1/4" extra is going to really mess me up. I was hoping to basically chip away the loose stuff, fill in with something, and use screen to reinforce the outer edge, with more mud.
Thanks! Wish I was here under better circumstances! Guess I'll have to stick around after my problem is solved. :)
How big are the holes in the drywall?
Actual holes probably max out at 2" x 6". I'm more concerned where the paper is gone, and most/much of the rock is broken up and loose.
Generally the majority can be filled with joint compound or a setting compound like durabond. The holes can be fixed but how big they are will determine the method needed. Don't use masonite! You could laminate the area with 1/4" cement board.
1/4" extra is going to really mess me up. I was hoping to basically chip away the loose stuff, fill in with something, and use screen to reinforce the outer edge, with more mud.
coops28
04-27-09, 06:28 AM
I always just patch the big holes with drywall and coat the rest with quick set mud. I works really well, especially with broken and cracked drywall that will be tiled over. It will take a couple of coats. You will want to get it sort of smooth and flat so your tile will go up easier.
21boat
04-28-09, 12:32 AM
I wouldn't mess with the tile that much just demo it ans cut the drywall where you need it If thats 1/2 inch drywall and it should be save some time and headache here. Use 1/2 " durock and make this a good professional job.
DUROCK Cement Board - USG Corporation (http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/prod_details/DUROCK_Brand_Cement_Board.htm)
Can't figure this out all that money for granite top and why not do the back splash right???
DUROCK Cement Board - USG Corporation (http://www.usg.com/navigate.do?resource=/USG_Marketing_Content/usg.com/web_files/products/prod_details/DUROCK_Brand_Cement_Board.htm)
Can't figure this out all that money for granite top and why not do the back splash right???