Walls and Ceilings - Outer Drywall Corners??
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Calman
04-17-09, 12:16 AM
Hey again guys! :)
Well, in our ongoing renos, I have a question about Drywall Corners. I purchased the metal beading with the paper edges. Now, I know you spread a little mud on the inner side of it to help it adhere to the drywall. My question is, do you still have to spread & sand a couple of coats of mortar over top of it to create a flush finish?
Cheers,
Cal :)
Well, in our ongoing renos, I have a question about Drywall Corners. I purchased the metal beading with the paper edges. Now, I know you spread a little mud on the inner side of it to help it adhere to the drywall. My question is, do you still have to spread & sand a couple of coats of mortar over top of it to create a flush finish?
Cheers,
Cal :)
diyplank
04-17-09, 04:36 AM
I haven't ever used the paper w/ the metal in it for the outside corners, I bought the metal bead for outside and the paper for the inside.
For the paper, I put mud up w/ a corner trowel and put the paper up, then I used my 6" straight to get all the excess mud out from under the paper corner bead. Once dry use a corner trowel. You will then have to make it wider so use a 6 or 8 or 10. I would also sand a little in between coats and be sure to put each coat on thin. If you don't, you'll have a heap of mud in the corner and you will see it after you paint. I have learned this the bad way!! HA I am no pro but have experience w/ this. Good Luck
For the paper, I put mud up w/ a corner trowel and put the paper up, then I used my 6" straight to get all the excess mud out from under the paper corner bead. Once dry use a corner trowel. You will then have to make it wider so use a 6 or 8 or 10. I would also sand a little in between coats and be sure to put each coat on thin. If you don't, you'll have a heap of mud in the corner and you will see it after you paint. I have learned this the bad way!! HA I am no pro but have experience w/ this. Good Luck
marksr
04-17-09, 05:19 AM
You won't need the corner trowel/knife on an outside corner. After the corner bead is securely inplace, you will need a couple of coats of joint compound [not mortar] over it, sanding the final coat prior to primer.
Are you using the bullnose [rounded] corner bead?
Are you using the bullnose [rounded] corner bead?
coops28
04-17-09, 06:18 AM
If you are using tape on corner bead, use a lot of mud under it, not a little. Use all purpose mud to stick it on. Then coat it with mud on top. Use an 8 inch knife for the first coat then a 10 inch knife for the second and third coats.
Calman
04-17-09, 03:01 PM
Hey Guys!
As always, thanks for the quality feedback, it's a great help to this novice kid!!!!
Sorry, I always get my terms mixed up, as I said "mortar" ... when I meant Compound. I bought a tub (like a large margarine tub) of all purpose joint compound, so I will be making a start on the simple flat joints first, to see how I do.
Do you sand each coat, or just the final one once everything has had time to dry???
Thanks!
Cal :)
As always, thanks for the quality feedback, it's a great help to this novice kid!!!!
Sorry, I always get my terms mixed up, as I said "mortar" ... when I meant Compound. I bought a tub (like a large margarine tub) of all purpose joint compound, so I will be making a start on the simple flat joints first, to see how I do.
Do you sand each coat, or just the final one once everything has had time to dry???
Thanks!
Cal :)
coops28
04-17-09, 03:28 PM
I think you are going to run out of mud pretty quickly. Go buy the 5 gal. bucket. I wouldn't sand in between but definitley scrape down any heavy spots or lap marks.
marksr
04-18-09, 06:47 AM
"Do you sand each coat, or just the final one once everything has had time to dry?"
If you do a decent job of applying the j/c, you only need to sand the final coat. As coops said, you should scrape down any ridges or high spots. You could sand them but scraping is usually easier/faster:D
If you do a decent job of applying the j/c, you only need to sand the final coat. As coops said, you should scrape down any ridges or high spots. You could sand them but scraping is usually easier/faster:D
diyplank
04-18-09, 09:34 AM
If you are good, and do it right like a pro then yes, you can just sand the final coat! But I know I am not there yet. So I do scrape the ridges and what not but I also do a quick sand to smooth it out a bit. I started doing this on my last room project and it seems to help a lot.
awesomedell
04-21-09, 07:11 AM
If you do alot of this type of work it may be worth your while to purchase the hopper & corner roller to properly apply the paper faced bead. The hopper & roller will run you in the neighborhood of $175 but makes appling these beads a snap & are well worth the $$. Here's what they look like All-Wall.com - Drywall Tools Superstore Multi-Use Hopper Outside Corner Bead (http://www.all-wall.com/acatalog/Multi-Use_Hopper_Outside_Corner_Bead.html#a6935) If you look on e-bay you might find a set of these tools at a big discount & I wouldn't be afraid to buy them used, as they are virtually indestructable.:coffee:
Calman
04-30-09, 09:57 PM
Thanks for all your help guys! ... my first drywall/mudding/taping project is complete ... and I'm pleasantly surprised at how good the results are.
Cheers!! :)
Cheers!! :)