Gardening and Horticulture - My new, critter proof, raised garden beds

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Quietman
04-08-09, 04:26 PM
Howdy all!

I'm constructing a garden bed designed to keep out the local deer, racoons, squirrels, possums, skunks and all other veggie eating critters.

I'm using cedar for the bed walls, and treated lumber for anything that doesn't touch the soil.

The overall dimensions are 14 feet wide by 12 feet deep, and the beds are three feet wide in most places, 29 inches wide in the front. The depth of the beds will be 23-1/2 inches.

I've already had the lumber delivered, and 10 yards of sandy loam (with compost) delivered.

I'll be posting pics of my progress over the next few weeks, and invite any questions, suggestions or observations. Below, find the plans.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/FinalRaisedBedwoMesh.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/FinalRaisedBedISO.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/FinalRaisedBedTopView.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/FinalRaisedBedFrontView.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/FinalRaisedBed.jpg

Take care everyone!

Quietman


Newt
04-09-09, 11:26 AM
Wow!! Now I need one of those!!! That looks fantastic.

Newt

mail4paynes
04-28-09, 03:54 PM
Your plans look great, saw something similar in store fo 1000 bucks!! would you share a materials list/blue print and the amount you have spent so far on this. Yours is WAY better than the mass produced in china version!!!!!!!!! :)


Wirepuller38
04-28-09, 05:21 PM
The wire sides will be a great place for raccoons and opossums to climb. I would add a wire top.

Pilot Dane
04-29-09, 01:04 PM
Quietman: Any pictures yet?

I would not worry about enclosing the top of your garden. I have not seen one that is attractive and I have never had trouble with animals climbing the fence. Just watch for any opening close to the ground that small animals can get through, especially around the gate. If you do have trouble with animals climbing over the fence a few electrified lines (electric fence) are unobtrusive and very effective.

I enclose my blueberries in 1/4" netting to keep the birds away. But everything else does well in open top, fenced areas.

Quietman
04-29-09, 04:36 PM
Well, I've actually got this thing about 70% built, but thought I'd start at the top with some of the detail drawings I developed. BTW, I used Google Sketchup (FREE) and I'm very impressed with it's capabilities.


Below is a drawing of the "base" layer:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/1-BaseLayer.jpg

Here's my cut list of the 2x12 cedar planks. All boards were 12 footers, except "B" and "E" which were 14 footers by mistake, I'm thinking the lumber yard that delivered the wood did not want to take the time to cut them down to 12 feet (excuse the yellow, something amiss with the jpeg export):

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/CutList.jpg

Here is a sample of how I used joist brackets for attaching the "inner" planks:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/2-PanelADetail.jpg

And here's how I connected the 10 foot tall uprights to the garden bed corners using 5/16" carriage bolts:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/Postmountingdetail.jpg


Lastly, here's a typical "screen panel" to provide defense from most mammals:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/ScreenPanel6.jpg

I've got a TON of pics to post, along with my building notes, I'll continue to post as I find time.

Quietman
04-29-09, 04:54 PM
After determining (from the drawings) how much wood I would need, I contacted the local lumber yard and made arrangements for the cedar to be delivered. I also decided to use treated lumber (ACQ) for the uprights and stringers since they would not touch the soil. The delivery guy managed to get it into my pole barn (out of the weather). See pic below of the cedar after I removed the treated lumber stacked on top.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0722.jpg

I also decided to paint the joist and corner brackets, as well as the carriage bolts, for aesthetic purposes only:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0726.jpg

Here was my "command and control" center while I was working on this, do you recognize the drawing??

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0729.jpg

My plan called for removing the first 23 inches of 1/2 of the 4x4's so they could be mounted to the bed siding (like taking a notch out). I know, some people would like to bury them in concrete, I did not see much benefit.


Because my circular saw only cuts to 2-3/4", and the posts are 3-1/2" thick, I had to draw a line down the center of each post (for each of my 23-1/2" cuts), make one "ripping" cut with the circular saw (using it's built in guide/fence) then flip the post over and make a second cut along the same line. The final cut is made perpendicular to the first two, right at the 23-1/2" mark:
:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0724.jpg

Then cleaned them up by making a fixture and using my router for touch up:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0728.jpg

Not "perfect" but will certainly serve my purposes. After trimming and cleaning these up, I set all nine posts aside to work on my cut list and installing joist brackets.

Quietman

Quietman
04-29-09, 06:24 PM
Once I completed work on the uprights, I started working on the cedar boards. Measuring twice before each cut, I used a speed square to get quick, perpendicular cuts. For those of you not familiar with a speed square, you can see it in the attached photo where I used it to align the brackets before screwing them down.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0730.jpg

A few things I learned along the way:

a) The saw seemed to follow the speed square smoothly when the square was to the right of the saw. When positioned on the left, the saw "jumped" and moved about a bit. Soon, I learned to take advantage of the smooth side for all cuts.

b) It pays to cut a 1/2" or so from the ends of the board (especially for rough cut lumber) to insure the ends are square and parallel BEFORE making the final measurements and cuts. Obviously, if you are cutting a 12 foot board into two 6 foot lengths, you may not have this luxury (I was not ALWAYS able to).

c) Make sure your saw blade is sharp. Old, dull blades tend to "kick back", make poor cuts, etc.

I used the measuring tape and speed square to mount the painted joist brackets in the correct positions, as shown in the attached photo.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0734.jpg

I used my router to provide the reliefs for the post mounting hardware, as shown below:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0736.jpg

I also decided to use the router to "mark" the parts per the plan,making final assembly easier. All marks were made on the non-stained sides. (i.e. the sides that would be buried in soil anyway)

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0739.jpg

Whenever I finished a pair of parts (there was always a right/left and/or top/bottom combination) I applied stain to the non-soil contact sides so it would have maximum time for curing. The photo below shows a stained versus unstained surface.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0742.jpg


More to come.

Quietman

Quietman
04-29-09, 06:30 PM
Because I'm not a carpenter, I guess it shouldn't surprise me to learn something new (and special!) every day!

While it's common knowledge that a 2x4 isn't really a 2x4 (oddly enough, it is before it's dried in the kiln!) but actually a 1-1/2 x 3-1/2. Sooooo...

The deck joists I bought (and painted, good bye refund capability!:wall:) are designed to fit standard, dimensional lumber. PROBLEM: My cedar is "rough cut", therefore the boards are ACTUALLY 1-3/4" thick, not 1-1/2".

GOOD NEWS!: Checking online, Simpson (the deck joist guys) actually make joists just for rough cut lumber!Beer 4U2

BAD NEWS!: It takes 2-3 weeks to get them, and planting season is just around the corner. :madhell:

Alright, I decide to cheat and route 1/8" off each of the boards that connect to the joists. I had to think it through, so none of the "modifications" are visible after assembly (i.e. they will all be on the soil side of the board). Pics below for your amusement!

1st Photo: Look how well the joist fits on a standard 2x4!!!

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0745.jpg

2nd Photo: Err..now on a "rough cut" piece of lumber

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0746.jpg

3rd Photo: Use joist as a template (Glad I hadn't mounted them all yet!)

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0747.jpg

4th Photo: Few minutes with the router

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0748.jpg

5th Photo: Fits like a GLOVE!http://www.wildlifegardeners.org/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0749.jpg

Only 15 more "cheats" to go!

Quietman

Quietman
04-29-09, 06:41 PM
So, after pulling an all nighter to finish all the cuts, staining, "cheats", etc I prepare for my friend to arrive and help me carry the lumber to the build site. We'll need to insure the structure is level and square, and I was hoping everything would go together easily.

Help arrives, and we tote all the lumber to the site. Some of the boards are 14 feet long, so I'm glad for the help!

Our first build site didn't work out so well. I resorted to getting my water level (created during my pond adventure (http://forum.doityourself.com/ponds-water-gardens/347438-overhauling-old-pond-adding-waterfall.html)) and we discovered after several frustrating hours that one side would have to be lowered (think digging a trench) about 12", and the other raised (think lifting onto landscape stones) about 12". Alright, we are not golfers and apparently couldn't read a green to save our lives! :wall:

We spend a half hour or so locating a secondary site, more LEVEL than the first, adequate sunshine, close enough to the house to discourage deer and easy watering, harvesting, etc.

The only saving grace: It was our first 70 degree day in a LONG time, and the weather was gorgeous!

Eventually, we move to the "beta" site. Everything is level in about 45 minutes, and the base structure completely assembled in another hour.

Please find attached photos.

1st photo: The markings came in handy!

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0755.jpg

2nd Photo: Glad I added the reliefs for the post mounting

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0775.jpg


Last three photos: The Raised Beds

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0750.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0753.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0751.jpg

Next I need to level the posts that are there, add the three remaining posts and tie up a few loose ends before I fill with soil.

Quietman
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Quietman
04-29-09, 06:46 PM
On the weekend we built up the base, I intentionally left the fasteners for the posts "handtight" so I had room to make them true and level.

The process was pretty straight forward. Using a "post level" and speed square, get the post true. Use shims where necessary,tighten all the fasteners, then use a sharp chisel to trim the shims.

I used 5/16" carriage bolts (5 inches long) with 1-1/2" fender washers and lock washers. If you can, use galvanized.

1st photo: Post level and speed square

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0774.jpg

2nd Photo: Shimming the post

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0776.jpg

3rd Photo: Trimming the shims with chisel

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0780.jpg

4th Photo: All buttoned up

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0777.jpg


In the above photo, the gap between the boards is a result of "rouch cut" lumber. You should have seen it before I clamped it down! Five more of these, and it's almost Corona time! Beer 4U2


Quietman
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Quietman
04-29-09, 06:52 PM
For the first six posts, I had pre-drilled the holes to insure (or at least maximize my chances) for true and square installs. I guess I could have done the "center" posts the same, but opted to put them on last. (In retrospect, I think I ran out of time!http://www.wildlifegardeners.org/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif)

I measured between the corner uprights for each of the three sides, finding the exact center of each bed wall. Using a clamp, I pinned the post to the bed wall:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0784.jpg

Then pretty much followed the previous leveling step except that now I also had to drill the holes for the carriage bolts.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0786.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0788.jpg

Quietman
04-29-09, 06:56 PM
The rear most bed is 14 feet long and three feet wide. The soil will weigh over three tons.(14 long x 2 deep x 3 wide = 84 cubic feet or 3.1 cubic yards)

All the pressure from the weight is likely to cause the bottom boards to bow out, so I've decided to add 3 foot sections of 1" galvanized pipe. My local Ace hardware store was nice enough to cut the pieces to 3 feet and thread both ends.

I then added a "Pipe floor flange" to each end, and installed them with 1/4" x 2" lag screws.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0789.jpg

I tried to install the bottom pipe section nearly center (12" board, so 6" from the bottom). The upper board is in the growing zone, and most of the pressure will be greater near the bottom, so I installed that pipe section 9" from the top. Both pipe sections are installed very close to the 7 foot mark (center) of the 14 foot bed.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0790.jpg

This should provide enough rigidity to keep the boards from bowing. The other beds are short enough (6 foot or less) that I am not concerned about them (famous last words??http://www.wildlifegardeners.org/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0791.jpg

The last two photos show the bed with all the posts installed, true and level.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0794.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0795.jpg

I had a rental Bobcat skid steer delivered to move the 10 cubic yards of soil (instead of 60 wheelbarrow trips), so I had to wrap any remaining work inside the beds.

Quietman
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Quietman
04-29-09, 07:02 PM
I spent today making final preparations before I add the soil, pics are posted below.

I lined the bottom of the beds with newspaper to smother any grass or weeds. I doubt they'd make it through 24" of soil, but why take chances?http://www.wildlifegardeners.org/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif

Over the newspaper, I placed hardware cloth (1/4" spacing, galvanized) just in case something decides to get cute and try to tunnel underneath and to the goodies!

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0797.jpg


http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0798.jpg

In the center of the garden beds (where I'll be!) I installed landscape fabric, tucking it under the edges of the bed, to suppress weeds and grass. I'll be covering that with several inches of river rock. The combination should keep weeds down in my work zone, and keep me from working in the mud. (ya, I know I need to straighten the fabric a bit, windy day!)

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0800.jpg

Along the outside of the beds, I added 18" of landscape fabric, carefully tucking it in under the bed edges. I'll be adding river stone over that as well. It should keep weeds from growing close to the bed and sucking any nutrients up that will inevitably weep from the bed. (I hate to weed eat!)

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0801.jpg

The last thing I did was install a threshold where the gate will be located, and I placed hardware cloth under that as well to discourage any "tunnel kings". (NOTE: Photo below does not show threshold :mad:)

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/IMG_0802.jpg

Should have more pics tomorrow, good night all!

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Quietman
04-29-09, 07:08 PM
In the photos below, I've added the 10 cubic yards of garden soil to the beds. The mistake I made was not insuring that the Bobcat that was delivered came with a 60" bucket. I ended up with a 74" bucket, and only the bed in the rear could be filled directly from the Bobcat. Thankfully, it was the single largest bed!

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0824.jpg

I spent today trying to beat the rain tomorrow by getting all the soil in the beds. The gravel border needs some touching up, but I'm happy to work with it when it's wet!

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0838.jpg

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0837.jpg

I've also installed (just because I was excited about it!) one of my new "Texas Tomato cages". Lastly, in the rear bed, you may notice onion sets I planted for Spanish yellow and Walla Walla sweets.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0839.jpg

One of the photos below is a profile shot of the man behind the plan, that's right, Quietman! (One of Mrs. Quietman's better pics of me!)

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0808.jpg

Take care everyone, I'll keep you posted on future progress.

Quiet

Pilot Dane
04-30-09, 09:47 AM
The garden looks great and it seems you thought of everything. The fence will certainly be high enough to discourage deer from jumping over and it will make a great trellis if needed. I see you even marked the little tree so you did not run over it with the loader.

I cannot wait to see it when everything is finished.

After showing off with CAD drawings, home-made/pre-made kit, cutting in bolt pockets, individually labled parts, pre-staining, and even leveling the cross support pipes that will be burried... I am glad you screwed-up on the lumber thicknesses :p.

PS: Nice stand-by generator.

Quietman
04-30-09, 04:12 PM
... I am glad you screwed-up on the lumber thicknesses :p.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Ok, ok, we ALL make mistakes! I thought recovered gracefully from that one!!! :rolleyes: *LOL*

Quietman
:WH:

P.S. You forgot to mention that I also radiused all the interior, upper bed corners so no one bangs up their knees on the raised bed walls!! ;)

Quietman
05-03-09, 04:28 AM
Before doing anything for the screen panels, I re-measured between all the upright posts to insure I would achieve a good fit.

Starting with the first screen panel, I cut 4 pieces of 1x4 (and 2 pieces of 1x2) treated lumber (ACQ) to the measured length.

Below you can see I'm using a jig to add "pocket holes" so I can mount the cut pieces either to the upright posts (for the 1x4's) or the top edge of the garden bed (for the 1x2's)


http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0850.jpg

I'm putting two holes at each end of the 1x4's, as shown below:


http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0853.jpg

After all the pocket holes are drilled, You can see below where I have placed the "top" rail and center rail on sawhorses with the 48", PVC coated, welded wire fence. I'm cutting the fence with a fencing tool, and as close to the length of wood as possible.


http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0857.jpg

After the fencing is trimmed, pulled square to the wood and clamped down, I'm using hot-dipped galvanized staples to hold down the corners of the fence to the 1x4 boards. My fence cutting tool also has a hammer on the other side, useful for installing the staples.


http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0859.jpg

Once all the staples are hammered in, I've removed all the clamps so I can apply the second layer of 1x4's to sandwich the fencing and "clamp" it between the boards with deck screws. If you look closely, you'll see that the fencing goes nearly to the top edge of the "top" rail, but only to the center of the "center" rail. I want to make sure I leave adequate room on the center rail to accommodate the 36" wide fencing that makes up the lower portion of the screen panel. In other words, the center rail will clamp both the lower and upper sections of the fencing at the same time.


http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0860.jpg

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Quietman
05-03-09, 04:41 AM
With the 48" section of fencing applied to half the sandwich, it's time to install the 36" fencing:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0869.jpg

With both the 48 and 36 fence sections "stapled" on the corners of the top, center and bottom rail, it's time to finish installing the rest of the "sandwich" boards on top of the fencing. I should point out that it's CRITICAL to insure the pieces are well clamped before screwing together with deck screws. Below, you'll see just two clamps on the bottom rail, but I'm just keeping the panel in place while I prepare for the center rail. I'll generally use 5 or 6 clamps per rail, tightened as much as I can:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0870.jpg

The screen panel now has all three rails, almost ready for installation:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0871.jpg

I've added a temporary piece of lightweight lumber so I can carry this section out to the work site, kinda like a picket sign:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0873.jpg

At the wok site, I've already placed a 2x4 across the uprights where I'll be installing this particular screen panel. I've also pre-placed several large clamps on the 2x4. If you look closely, you'll see the 2x4 is placed on it's 2" edge, to minimize deflection when I tighten the clamps. The temporary piece I installed certainly helped when hooking onto the clamps as it's almost 8 feet up!

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0874.jpg

Quietman

Quietman
05-03-09, 04:45 AM
With the screen panel dangling from the clamps now, I'll line up the bottom rail flush to the outside edge of the garden bed wall, and install 1-1/4" deck screws to secure the bottom rail. Due to the tension I'll be applying later, I'm using screws about every six inches on both sides of the bottom rail in pocket holes that I made before assembly:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0882.jpg

Now I'll remove the temporary piece of lumber (used for transport and hanging) before I tighten the clamps to pull the fencing tight, and put a little tension on it. I don't want to pull it out of the sandwich of boards, or deflect the 2x4 the clamp is pulling against, just enough to pull the fencing taught:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0880.jpg

Almost done! I want to check the level of the top rail, and adjust the clamps to get the board as level as possible. I want to avoid loosening a clamp to achieve level, as the fencing may sag if I do:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0881.jpg

With the fencing taught, and the rails level, I'll now go back to the pocket holes for the center and top rail and install 1-1/4" deck screws to secure them:

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0884.jpg

Now I'll loosen the clamps sufficiently for removal, also removing the 2x4 on top of the rails, and the first panel is installed! Beer 4U2

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt50/Montville_Flyer/Raised%20Beds/IMG_0885.jpg

I'll repeat these steps for the remaining seven screen panels.

Quietman

Pilot Dane
05-03-09, 07:05 PM
Interesting how you approach the problem differntly than I. Stretching/straightening the fencing was a real pain for some sections. High quality fencing went much easier than the cheap stuff.

I've also built a hops garden. Not raised bed and I just usesd 4x4 posts for the fencing with no top or cross members. It is impossible to put any tension on the fence without pulling the posts out of plumb. Not one of my finer moments.

ActionClaw
05-07-09, 09:48 PM
Just remember to keep it plugged in and switched on every night or it'll be for naught!

mickblock
05-10-09, 07:26 AM
Wow I remember seeing the plans you posted.
Your project is a thing of beauty. Very motivating!