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GaryMN
02-12-09, 07:50 PM
I have about 10 cans located in ceilings where there is only the next floor above. There is a lot of draft coming through these--especially when it is windy.
I already changed over the cans that had access on the backside (attic); that was pretty straightforward. But these ...
I sure don't want to cut big openings in the ceiling just to access the old cans and put in new. As I see it, this would require basically redoing the whole ceiling --including popcorn and paint--in two hallways and two rooms.
Help?
I already changed over the cans that had access on the backside (attic); that was pretty straightforward. But these ...
I sure don't want to cut big openings in the ceiling just to access the old cans and put in new. As I see it, this would require basically redoing the whole ceiling --including popcorn and paint--in two hallways and two rooms.
Help?
GaryMN
04-26-09, 08:14 AM
We get a lot of draft through these non-airtight cans and I'd like to replace them ASAP.
Any ideas for replacing them with airtight cans? These are all main floor locations; I can't access the area behind them because it is the second story flooring. Cutting out the whole ceiling will be a big mess.
Is there a "remodeler's" approach to this?
Any ideas? Thanks.
Any ideas for replacing them with airtight cans? These are all main floor locations; I can't access the area behind them because it is the second story flooring. Cutting out the whole ceiling will be a big mess.
Is there a "remodeler's" approach to this?
Any ideas? Thanks.
pcboss
04-26-09, 08:49 AM
Most new work cans have 3 small screws that hold the housing to the frame. Remove these and this will allow access to the wiring compartment. Sometimes the frams can be cut out of the way or just left in place. Install AT remodel cans in the same holes.
Tolyn Ironhand
04-26-09, 09:19 AM
Another option would to install airtight trims. If they are 6" cans it should be easy to find them. Also if you pull the inside can down as PC boss posted you could stuff some insulation in the cavity to help stop the air. Just be sure to not put insulation within 3" of the can if they are not IC rated.
Since there is another floor above the cans I find it odd you are getting a lot of air movement when it is windy. Are you sure you don't have some other type of air leak?
Since there is another floor above the cans I find it odd you are getting a lot of air movement when it is windy. Are you sure you don't have some other type of air leak?
John Nelson
04-26-09, 11:38 AM
I think it would be far better to figure out where the air is coming from and seal the leaks. This would probably have a greater effect on your utility bill.