Water Softeners and Air Filtration Systems - Difference between Kinetico 4040 and Quad 50
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martinav
02-09-09, 04:52 PM
I am having trouble finding specifications on the Kenetico 4040 and Quad 50 (51??). I have a lead on a used Quad 50. I have a 2060, and I'm told that is not the best thing for city water w/chlorine. Actually, the dealer tried to scare me that the chlorine would gut my resin. So, anyway, I would like to understand what the Quad 50 is all about, since it looks to be the same format as the 4040 (softener + carbon). Also, a good used price might be???
Oh, if I buy this, what is a good selling price for my 2-3yr old Mach 2060?
Thank you.
Oh, if I buy this, what is a good selling price for my 2-3yr old Mach 2060?
Thank you.
AndyC
02-09-09, 05:17 PM
The 4040 is the upgrade friom the Quad 50. Major differences are intake ports were enlarged from 1" to 1.25". From a seven-year warranty to ten. and better flow rate, fewer gallons per regeneration and slightly better salt efficiency.
Not really sure what you meant by "scared" you as everyone has a different interpretation of what is frightening. But, chlorine will change your DNA.... no, just kidding...
Chlorine is a strong oxident and letting your resins sit in it 7/24 will eventually turn the resin into "mush". It swells and becomes soft and loses its ability to remove hardness as it should. Kinetico doesn't want to mix carbon and resins in the same tank for a number of practical reasons but does see the value in removing chlorine to protect the systems integrity.
My recommendation would be the install a device ahead of your realitively new softener that accomplishes the same result, if not better. Replaceable cartridges or an upflow tank with a quantity of carbon plumbed in ahead of the softener will be perfectly fine. Future maintenance and replacement would be easy.
Hope that helped...
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
Not really sure what you meant by "scared" you as everyone has a different interpretation of what is frightening. But, chlorine will change your DNA.... no, just kidding...
Chlorine is a strong oxident and letting your resins sit in it 7/24 will eventually turn the resin into "mush". It swells and becomes soft and loses its ability to remove hardness as it should. Kinetico doesn't want to mix carbon and resins in the same tank for a number of practical reasons but does see the value in removing chlorine to protect the systems integrity.
My recommendation would be the install a device ahead of your realitively new softener that accomplishes the same result, if not better. Replaceable cartridges or an upflow tank with a quantity of carbon plumbed in ahead of the softener will be perfectly fine. Future maintenance and replacement would be easy.
Hope that helped...
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
martinav
02-09-09, 06:13 PM
Great info, Andy, thank you.
Is there a particular device I should look at? Or, is there some big generic tank I can purchase that looks like a resin tank that I can chock full of carbon bits?
Thank you.
Is there a particular device I should look at? Or, is there some big generic tank I can purchase that looks like a resin tank that I can chock full of carbon bits?
Thank you.
AndyC
02-09-09, 09:12 PM
I would try a plumbing supply store or a local plumber. All water dealer can set you up. A tank 8" x 44" would be a good start. Larger tanks (10" x 54") would use 1.5 cuft of carbon.
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
martinav
02-09-09, 09:28 PM
Thanks again Andy. I have more questions... is there special head for the tank? Is there something that extends down in the tank, to draw water from the bottom, etc?? Sorry, I'm pretty lame about this stuff.
AndyC
02-10-09, 05:53 AM
You're welcome. Yes, there is a specail in/out 'valve'. Also there is a riser tube that fits snuggly uo into to valve with a distributor *screen) at the bottom. You may want to put water treatment gravel at the bottom to cover the distributor. This lets the water spread out evenly through the media bed.
Make sure you put in a by-pass valve.
Again, contact a local professional to help guide you.
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
Make sure you put in a by-pass valve.
Again, contact a local professional to help guide you.
Andy Christensen, CWS-II