Electronic Alarms and Home Security Devices - DSC: I defaulted my panel and now all of the zones show "open".
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victormguerrero
01-19-09, 02:46 PM
Hello,
I just bought my home and the system was installed but had no info on how to get it back up and running. i cant afford to monitor it at the time but eventuly will. After reading through the post I have been able to power on the system and defaulted my pc board. im pretty fortunate to find that my board was not locked but here is what i am having problems with.
I read through the FAQ and found this post below
DSC: I defaulted my panel and now all of the zones show "open".
A lot of DSC panel installers choose to not use the End of Line Resistors (for a myriad of reasons) and instead choose to use a feature in the programming that turns off the requirement. When the panel is defaulted, this requirement is turned back on.
The specific location that has to be changed will vary by model, but will usually be in the system options sections of the program.
However I do not know what to do next can anyone help
here is the run down
I defaulted my panel. My kepad has the trouble light on and the leters across the top O P E N. I have the insallers code being [5555]. I have the following zones installed
Zone 1= front door
Zone 2=back door
Zone 3=Front motion
Zone 4=Hall motion
Zone 6=tv room motion
There is also a monitored smoke detector installed and I am guessing it is zoned to zone 5 not sure therefor I programed the following
*8+ [55555]+[001]+[01]+[03]+[04]+[04]+[00]+[04]+[00]+ [00]##
This set my system to only recognize zones 1-8 and only the zones listed above, that is zones 1-4 and zone 6 zones 5, 7,8 are listed as not being used should i change zone 5 to [08] code for my smoke detector? if its too much trouble should i simply not use and keep it the way i set it up above? please advise
now after this my keypad is showing the letters O P E N and wehn i press the # key the zones that are listed are 1,2,3,4,6
I have looked up turning the tamper/faults option off but have no idea how. THe installer did not use any resistors i found the manual online for the pc 1555 and have been able to figure out some of the stuff.
I am lost when i got to the section to turn off the tamper/faults section. Should i not do this if not what should i do to fix my problems.
ALso my rear door contct as well as my two motion detectors in the home are wireless. The batteries are good. Should I do anything different when it comes to programing?
Any help is appreciated
I just bought my home and the system was installed but had no info on how to get it back up and running. i cant afford to monitor it at the time but eventuly will. After reading through the post I have been able to power on the system and defaulted my pc board. im pretty fortunate to find that my board was not locked but here is what i am having problems with.
I read through the FAQ and found this post below
DSC: I defaulted my panel and now all of the zones show "open".
A lot of DSC panel installers choose to not use the End of Line Resistors (for a myriad of reasons) and instead choose to use a feature in the programming that turns off the requirement. When the panel is defaulted, this requirement is turned back on.
The specific location that has to be changed will vary by model, but will usually be in the system options sections of the program.
However I do not know what to do next can anyone help
here is the run down
I defaulted my panel. My kepad has the trouble light on and the leters across the top O P E N. I have the insallers code being [5555]. I have the following zones installed
Zone 1= front door
Zone 2=back door
Zone 3=Front motion
Zone 4=Hall motion
Zone 6=tv room motion
There is also a monitored smoke detector installed and I am guessing it is zoned to zone 5 not sure therefor I programed the following
*8+ [55555]+[001]+[01]+[03]+[04]+[04]+[00]+[04]+[00]+ [00]##
This set my system to only recognize zones 1-8 and only the zones listed above, that is zones 1-4 and zone 6 zones 5, 7,8 are listed as not being used should i change zone 5 to [08] code for my smoke detector? if its too much trouble should i simply not use and keep it the way i set it up above? please advise
now after this my keypad is showing the letters O P E N and wehn i press the # key the zones that are listed are 1,2,3,4,6
I have looked up turning the tamper/faults option off but have no idea how. THe installer did not use any resistors i found the manual online for the pc 1555 and have been able to figure out some of the stuff.
I am lost when i got to the section to turn off the tamper/faults section. Should i not do this if not what should i do to fix my problems.
ALso my rear door contct as well as my two motion detectors in the home are wireless. The batteries are good. Should I do anything different when it comes to programing?
Any help is appreciated
JimfromIndy
01-19-09, 03:10 PM
First, find the manual. I have the manual for the Power 832 (aka "PC5010") if that will help. I can send it to your email. Google your panel model number followed by the word "manual" (e.g. "Power 632 manual") and you'll find someone who can provide it to you on a .pdf basis.
For the Power 832, the zone type is programmed as quoted from the manual:
2.11 Zone Wiring
For a complete description of the operation of all zone types, please refer to 5.2 “Zone Programming” .
There are several different ways in which zones may be wired, depending on which programming options have been selected. The panel can be programmed to supervise normally closed, end of line, or double end of line loops. Please refer to the following diagrams to study each type of individually supervised zone wiring.
NOTE: Any zone programmed for fire or 24 hour supervisory must be wired with a single end of line (EOL) resistor regardless of the type of zone wiring supervision selected for the panel (section [013]: [1] -[2]). See 5.2 “Zone rogramming”
NOTE: If you change the zone supervision options from DEOL to EOL or from NC to DEOL (section [013], options [1] or [2]), you should power down the system completely, and then power it back up. If you do not, the zones may not work orrectly.
Normally Closed (NC) Loops
To enable normally closed loops, programming section [013], option [1] must be ON.
NOTE: This option should only be selected if normally closed (NC) detection devices or contacts are being used.
Single End Of Line (EOL) Resistors (5600Ω)
To enable panel detection of single end of line resistors, programming section [013], Options [1] and [2] must be OFF. NOTE: This option should be selected if either normally closed (NC) or normally open (NO) detection devices or contacts are being used.
Double End of Line (DEOL) Resistors
Double end of line resistors allow the panel to determine if the zone is in alarm, tampered or faulted.
To enable panel detection of double end of line resistors, rogramming section [013], option [1] must be OFF and option [2] must be ON.
NOTE: If the double EOL supervision option is enabled, all hardwire zones on the main panel must be wired for double EOL resistors, except for fire and 24 Hour supervisory zones.
NOTE: Do not wire DEOL resistors on keypad zones.
NOTE: Do not use DEOL resistors for fire zones or 24 hour supervisory zones. Do not wire fire zones to keypad zone erminals if the DEOL supervision option is selected.
NOTE: This option can only be selected if normally closed (NC) detection devices or contacts are being used.
NOTE: Only one NC contact can be connected to each zone. Wiring multiple detection devices or contacts on a single loop is not allowed.
The following chart shows zone status under certain conditions:
Loop Resistance Loop Status
0Ω (shorted wire, loop shorted) Fault
5600Ω (contact closed) Secure
Infinite (broken wire, loop open) Tamper
11200Ω (contact open) Violated
End of Line Resistors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Section [013]: 1]
Double End of Line Resistors . . . . . . . . . . .Section [013]: [2]
---------------end of quote
The better option is to leave the programming as shown and install resistors at the end of the lines. I'll leave that decision to you.
For the Power 832, the zone type is programmed as quoted from the manual:
2.11 Zone Wiring
For a complete description of the operation of all zone types, please refer to 5.2 “Zone Programming” .
There are several different ways in which zones may be wired, depending on which programming options have been selected. The panel can be programmed to supervise normally closed, end of line, or double end of line loops. Please refer to the following diagrams to study each type of individually supervised zone wiring.
NOTE: Any zone programmed for fire or 24 hour supervisory must be wired with a single end of line (EOL) resistor regardless of the type of zone wiring supervision selected for the panel (section [013]: [1] -[2]). See 5.2 “Zone rogramming”
NOTE: If you change the zone supervision options from DEOL to EOL or from NC to DEOL (section [013], options [1] or [2]), you should power down the system completely, and then power it back up. If you do not, the zones may not work orrectly.
Normally Closed (NC) Loops
To enable normally closed loops, programming section [013], option [1] must be ON.
NOTE: This option should only be selected if normally closed (NC) detection devices or contacts are being used.
Single End Of Line (EOL) Resistors (5600Ω)
To enable panel detection of single end of line resistors, programming section [013], Options [1] and [2] must be OFF. NOTE: This option should be selected if either normally closed (NC) or normally open (NO) detection devices or contacts are being used.
Double End of Line (DEOL) Resistors
Double end of line resistors allow the panel to determine if the zone is in alarm, tampered or faulted.
To enable panel detection of double end of line resistors, rogramming section [013], option [1] must be OFF and option [2] must be ON.
NOTE: If the double EOL supervision option is enabled, all hardwire zones on the main panel must be wired for double EOL resistors, except for fire and 24 Hour supervisory zones.
NOTE: Do not wire DEOL resistors on keypad zones.
NOTE: Do not use DEOL resistors for fire zones or 24 hour supervisory zones. Do not wire fire zones to keypad zone erminals if the DEOL supervision option is selected.
NOTE: This option can only be selected if normally closed (NC) detection devices or contacts are being used.
NOTE: Only one NC contact can be connected to each zone. Wiring multiple detection devices or contacts on a single loop is not allowed.
The following chart shows zone status under certain conditions:
Loop Resistance Loop Status
0Ω (shorted wire, loop shorted) Fault
5600Ω (contact closed) Secure
Infinite (broken wire, loop open) Tamper
11200Ω (contact open) Violated
End of Line Resistors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Section [013]: 1]
Double End of Line Resistors . . . . . . . . . . .Section [013]: [2]
---------------end of quote
The better option is to leave the programming as shown and install resistors at the end of the lines. I'll leave that decision to you.