Electronic Alarms and Home Security Devices - Concord 4: New Install Questions / Help

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diy92805
12-25-08, 06:18 PM
Hello Everyone,

I recently purchased a new construction condo which was pre installed with an Ademco Vista system. I removed this system and installed a Concord 4 that I purchased from SafeMart. I plan to use their Alarm.com service and monitoring once I get everything setup.

I had a couple questions though. Regarding the zones, what is the difference between a Zone and a Sensor? My zones are all setup to one sensor per zone. The confusion is in trying to identify which sensor is physically connected to each zone. It seems that you learn the sensors in the order that you learn them in. I'm trying to pin point which sensors numbers are connected to which sensor and I dont have another person here to trip it for me, I run a test, but by the time I get back to the panel the number has disappeared. I'm sure there is a real easy answer to this that I misssed.

That being said so far I have the follow sensors in the following groups:

Front Entry, Garage Entry Doors = GROUP 10

Front Entry Win Left, Front Entry Win Right, Upstairs Balcony Door = GROUP 14 (is this correct??) I want these to instantly alarm when ARMED.

I have two more sensors I need to group (once I figure out their numbers):

Motion Detector (RCR-PET) - I want to set this to notification only, I do not want the police called on this until I've had long enough to test and make sure my cat does not set it off.

What group do I need to put this is so that it still tells Alarm.com but doesn't call the cops?

Thanks everyone. Merry Christmas!


MrRonFL
12-25-08, 08:51 PM
This is where GE/ITI legacy terminology throws people off. They chose their variant names back when every alrarm brand was trying to create their own nomenclature.

Anywhere Concord refers to "sensor group", think "zone type".

Any specific input is a "Sensor", which most other brands call "zones". Each hardwire input is a sensor/zone, and each individual wireless device is a sensor/zone.

For your sensor group/zone type: The perimeter items like windows the correct zone type is 13 -- instant perimeter. 14 is instant interior.

Normally motions will be group 15. I would go ahead and program it properly. It will autobypass in stay mode, and you can always have your account set temporarily for no dispatch until you are done experimenting.

GEGUY
12-25-08, 09:23 PM
Hello Everyone,

I recently purchased a new construction condo which was pre installed with an Ademco Vista system. I removed this system and installed a Concord 4 that I purchased from SafeMart. I plan to use their Alarm.com service and monitoring once I get everything setup.

I had a couple questions though. Regarding the zones, what is the difference between a Zone and a Sensor? My zones are all setup to one sensor per zone. The confusion is in trying to identify which sensor is physically connected to each zone. It seems that you learn the sensors in the order that you learn them in. I'm trying to pin point which sensors numbers are connected to which sensor and I dont have another person here to trip it for me, I run a test, but by the time I get back to the panel the number has disappeared. I'm sure there is a real easy answer to this that I misssed.

That being said so far I have the follow sensors in the following groups:

Front Entry, Garage Entry Doors = GROUP 10

Front Entry Win Left, Front Entry Win Right, Upstairs Balcony Door = GROUP 14 (is this correct??) I want these to instantly alarm when ARMED.

I have two more sensors I need to group (once I figure out their numbers):

Motion Detector (RCR-PET) - I want to set this to notification only, I do not want the police called on this until I've had long enough to test and make sure my cat does not set it off.

What group do I need to put this is so that it still tells Alarm.com but doesn't call the cops?

Thanks everyone. Merry Christmas!

On a new panel, if you don't clear memory, zones 1-8 are the onboard hardwire zones (you can clear memory to get rid of them all, or delete them out individually in "Delete Sensors"). So if you start learning in your zones, "9" will be the first one. The system goes in numerical order so the next will be "10, 11, 12," etc. You don't have to go in that order, if the keypad says "Trip Sensor 9" and you want to trip in sensor 44, simply type in "44" at the keypad...

Group 15= active in STAY and AWAY mode
Group 17= active in AWAY mode

Group 25= Chime only (maybe till you get comfy with system)


MrRonFL
12-26-08, 07:32 AM
Thanks, I always have to read and re-read that chart to keep those ITI style zone types straight.

diy92805
12-26-08, 09:03 PM
Thanks guys, I'll give that a shot.

diy92805
12-29-08, 10:07 PM
For your sensor group/zone type: The perimeter items like windows the correct zone type is 13 -- instant perimeter. 14 is instant interior.

How weird my manual pg 160 and 161 does not show type 13. It goes from 12 to 14. What gives?

For zone 13, is it instant in both STAY and AWAY but not when dis-armed?

Can someone send me a PDF of the manual? I'd really like to search in it instead of flippping pages. Thanks.

GEGUY
12-30-08, 10:32 AM
How weird my manual pg 160 and 161 does not show type 13. It goes from 12 to 14. What gives?

For zone 13, is it instant in both STAY and AWAY but not when dis-armed?

Can someone send me a PDF of the manual? I'd really like to search in it instead of flippping pages. Thanks.

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