Electronic Alarms and Home Security Devices - DSC powerseries 9047

Hi,

i am fairly new to the thread and i am wondering a few things in regards to the DSC powerseries 9047,

has anyone had time to use it and if so how well does it work?
i am thinking of installing it in my house. my house is around 4000sq ft. so i will need a number of sensors to secure the house. what are your thoughts on glass break sensors? do they work well with newer windows when they are broken? any other advise would be so greatfully appreciated.

I'll give the caveat that I am not the biggest fan of the DSC programming model _or_ their wireless tech.

It's pretty new on the market, and my location isn't a big DSC market, but the couple I have seen are on a par with any of the other all-in-one alarm units on the market.

For a house the size you describe, a all-in-one unit is really not your best choice.

If you can, go with a traditonal split system, with as much hardwiring as you can get away with. If the place is of recent construction, the odds are pretty good that you are already prewired.


Acoustic glass break sensors are an excellent choice as a second line of defense, especially for large plate windows and sliding door locations. They are very effective. The only big limiter is if you favor heavy drapes.

thanks, i think i will maybe go hybrid then. i really like dsc for some reason. i feel its a farily reliable systems and i know that a few of my family has dsc systems installed in there homes. i like how they work.

i was thinking about a dsc hybrid because i would like a keypad in the master bedroom. because we have a walk out basement and 3 sets of patio doors down there, do you think each door pair should have a door contact on it? now if we just have pvc wood look blinds, will they interfere with the glass break sensros or accousic sensor? the whole basement is finished with a suspended celling so it would be falirly east to install glass break and motion sensors. door contacts may be harder. may have to go wireless. any other suggestion you may have would be appreciated.

If your doors are the french door style, if the slide locks on the latch side section are set, they are nearly impossible to jimmy. In that case, I would only bother putting contacts on the normally moving side (lock side).

Window blinds don't have that much effect on glass breaks (they don't soak up sound like heavy drapes).

DSC makes good, professional grade hardware. I just dislike their programming model (and horrid manuals). They have greatly improved their wireless, but those of us who dealt with the old 900mhz models got left with a bad taste in our mouths.

Go for it. Just look your house over. As I said, you may find that you already have wiring in place.

Thanks again. i have another question though, (i know i am a pain) i am wondering, i have looked at a dsc 1616 hybrid system and if i want to wire multiple keypads, do i just wire all the keypads to the red, blk yellow and green slots. or do i need an expander type thing to use more than one keypad.

The system supports about 8 keypads. You just wire them in parallel. Do not "daisy chain" from one keypad to the next, the voltage drop on the wire will bite you in the butt.

Here, look over the installer manual:
http://www.myalarm.com/manuals_prog/pc1832p.pdf

Alright, so i think i get this right, i wire each keypad individual and then run that wire from each keypad to the control panel. Then at the control panel where it shows red,black,yellow and green, you wire both keypads into that slot. Is that correct? I am farily techno but i do need alittle clarifcation as it is my first time installing an alarm.
Second wiring the other sensors suchs as a motion, each one is wired and then to the control panel, so zone 1 and zone 2 share the same common right? And the red and black go to the zone and the green and yellow go to the common is that right?
Which wires to the resistors go on? The green yellow, red or black?
I am also wondering, we have sliding windows in the kids rooms downstairs, would you recomend putting sensors on them? I am thinking it will prevent them from sneaking out, as well as keeping people that should be out, out.
I will probably go with one rf reciever keypad because my main floor and 2nd floor are not accessable as the basement is. I was gonna prewire the house when we had it build but never did.
Thanks so much for your help!! (must be painfull at times to help dummies like myself)

Yes, homerun each keypad and they all connect to the keypad connections.

Remember devices like motions and glass breaks are 4-wire devices, so each one has a power connection that goes to the same power connections that the keypads use.

Yes, the pairs of zones share a common.

The resistor goes anywhere in the loop. It's not polarity sensitive. It's just a normally closed switch circuit. The best is right at the last device on the circuit, but in a residential system, it's less of an issue.

If you can get contacts on those downstairs windows, it's a good idea (ground floor openings should be your priority). Motions and glass breaks should be your _second_ line of defense.

alright thanks for the info, so the motions and glassbreaks have to be wired into a power conection in the keypad slot in the control panel. do you know which color wire it would be? also what kind of wire is needed? when i purchase the motions and glassbreaks will it tell me how to wire them.

thanks again.

Wire color doesn't matter, as long as you are consistant.

The minimum wire for security is 22 gauge. Use at least 22 gauge, 4 conductor wire. Most versions have red, black, green & yellow, but there are numerous variants depening on who made the stuff.

I normally try to consistantly use red and black for power, and the other pair for the alarm line.

Yes the components come with instructions: _Read Them_

It's the little stuff that can trip you up.

It sounds like you might need to find a little basic electricity and electronics instruction.

well thanks for your help. i have wired telephone lines before also so its pretty much the same wiring. guess i should know it dont really matter on color.:o just remember which color is for what. i am going to be ordering the system here shortly with all the zones i need and am going to give i a try. thanks for all the guidence and support. i may need allitle assistnace here and there but i will ask when the time comes,

thanks

just a word of advice you can only use one rf receiver on the 1616 and that will support up to 32 wireless zones if you put two on it it will give you issues.

thanks for the info. greatfully appreciated!

MrRONFL,

in regards to the powerseries 9047 self contained unit, i have heard that they can install a device that can send a signal if the system is destroyed or ripped off the wall. heres what it says,
"The Power Series 9047 is one of the only self contained wireless security system with an auxiliary 12VDC
regulated power supply on-board. First, secure a standard power supervision relay (DSC-RM1C or DSC-RM2)
in the GS3060’s cabinet, which has been installed at a different location from the 9047. Second, connect the relay’s NC and COM terminals to the GS3060’s zone 3 and COM terminals, and connect the relay’s 12VDC
and GND terminals to the Power Series 9047’s auxiliary power supply. Finally, enable option [4] in section
[014] in the Power Series 9047 installation programming to enable the 12VDC power supply.
Not only will the GS3060 back up the telephone against the telephone line being cut, but if a burglar rips the
Power Series 9047 off the wall during a break in, the wires will break and the power supervision relay will
deactivate. This will short zone 3 on the GS3060 and instantly communicate a burglar alarm to the
monitoring station." is this able to do that, and does it make the systems just as relieable as the wired or hybrid systems?

Thanks

Yes, the hardware is designed to do that. It is a very good system for a small house/condo/apartment.

It is not (in my professional opinion) a good fit for rhe 4000 square foot, multi-floor residence described. (Many full-scale wireless systems would be an iffy proposition in that large a structure).

okay. thanks for the info. i was looking at one for my summer lake property. thanks again.

Hi again!!

i have been working on installing my alarm system, i got alot done now. just a few more sensors and i will be finished. hopefiully before christmas!! i do have a question with the acurity glass break sensors. i with the french doors in my media room, there are also 2 large sections of windows on each side of the doors, i am wondering about the glass breaks installed in there, if i am watching a moive and my wife decides to arm the alarm system, if a breaking glass sound on tv, would that set off the alarm?? we do have a fairly advanced speaker system in there. not the kids have tvs in there rooms, but no real surround sound systems, if they were to fall asleep, would the alarm go off if there was a broken sound on tv?

thanks for the info.

The answer is a qualified "maybe". A good speaker system at the right volume could trip a glass break (the testers they sell are just recordings of glass breaking). You will have to test your setup.