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jmeander
11-11-08, 05:19 PM
Not sure if this was made by Pella, or Larson with a Pella label, but this is a fullview storm door about 5 years old, originally purchased from Menard's. I have no installation materials. I am trying to replace the mortise lockset and can't seem to get the old one fully removed.
I have removed the inside and outside escutcheon/trim plates, inside and outside handle assemblies, every visible screw inside and out, as well as on the latch/mortise plate assembly.
I can't figure out how to separate and remove the inside knob and outside lock for the deadbolt. Can't find a set screw or anything that will release the inside knob or inside knob from the spindle so I can get those and the latch assembly off. Is there a hidden trick to this?
FWIW, I'm replacing it wiith a Wright lock of similar fit and function, just a different finish.
Thanks much.
~Jacy
I have removed the inside and outside escutcheon/trim plates, inside and outside handle assemblies, every visible screw inside and out, as well as on the latch/mortise plate assembly.
I can't figure out how to separate and remove the inside knob and outside lock for the deadbolt. Can't find a set screw or anything that will release the inside knob or inside knob from the spindle so I can get those and the latch assembly off. Is there a hidden trick to this?
FWIW, I'm replacing it wiith a Wright lock of similar fit and function, just a different finish.
Thanks much.
~Jacy
XSleeper
11-11-08, 05:32 PM
Can you post a pic to photobucket or similar, and then copy and paste the link here? The ones I'm thinking of were once piece (key tumbler and inside knob) and slid into a keyhole shaped slot from the inside and then were held in place with one screw that was just under the latch. It's been a while since I did one, so maybe I'm remembering wrong. Sometimes I forget. :)
jmeander
11-11-08, 06:07 PM
Thanks for the quick reply. Here you go...
Picasa - Storm Lock (http://picasaweb.google.com/jmeander/StormLock#)
From what I can see, there's no way the knob or key lock could slide through in either direction as the hole in the latch assembly seems large enough only for the spindle. See that little grey piece sticking out behind the lock on the front view? Seems to me that must do something but all I can get it to do is swing around in a 360.
~Jacy
Picasa - Storm Lock (http://picasaweb.google.com/jmeander/StormLock#)
From what I can see, there's no way the knob or key lock could slide through in either direction as the hole in the latch assembly seems large enough only for the spindle. See that little grey piece sticking out behind the lock on the front view? Seems to me that must do something but all I can get it to do is swing around in a 360.
~Jacy
XSleeper
11-11-08, 06:42 PM
That looks similar to what I was picturing... but the key looks upside down to me. Can you get the key, or maybe turn the interior knob, rotate it 180 degrees and push the whole key cylinder through to the interior? I think that grey tab needs to be pointing down. Hard to remember without being there in person to fiddle with it!
GlobalLocky
11-11-08, 09:07 PM
Is the door open?
You need to make sure the door is open to remove the philips screw that retains the key cylinder.
Most Pella doors of this style are 3 point locking and require the whole door removed to access the top and bottom locking mechanisms before the body can come out.
Often on the edge of the door the center trim is removeable (with the door off) to reveal the inner connecting and fixing screws.
The cam on the cylinder must be turned to allow the cylinder to withdraw from the unit. It will only come out the inside.
You need to make sure the door is open to remove the philips screw that retains the key cylinder.
Most Pella doors of this style are 3 point locking and require the whole door removed to access the top and bottom locking mechanisms before the body can come out.
Often on the edge of the door the center trim is removeable (with the door off) to reveal the inner connecting and fixing screws.
The cam on the cylinder must be turned to allow the cylinder to withdraw from the unit. It will only come out the inside.
jmeander
11-11-08, 10:22 PM
I fiddled and fiddled and finally got the key tumbler to slide through to the interior. It had to be aligned just so and needed the help of WD40, but I finally got it out of there.
Thanks much, and the replacement looks to be a whole lot easier to install (and uninstall!)
~Jacy
Thanks much, and the replacement looks to be a whole lot easier to install (and uninstall!)
~Jacy
efrinmn
09-11-09, 09:45 PM
Hi
I have a Pella door from Menards as well and the turn knob simply fell off yesterday and doesn't want to reattach. I assume either a piece fell inside the mortise set or it fell off outside when I opened the door. Where can you get a replacement? Do I have to go thru Pella?
Thanks!
I have a Pella door from Menards as well and the turn knob simply fell off yesterday and doesn't want to reattach. I assume either a piece fell inside the mortise set or it fell off outside when I opened the door. Where can you get a replacement? Do I have to go thru Pella?
Thanks!