Electronic Alarms and Home Security Devices - Vista-PSIA and Glass break detector

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Speedy742
08-14-08, 03:17 PM
Has anyone managed to add the Glass Break Detectors (5853's) to the above system (Vista-10PSIA) ? I am hoping you can but the product manual doesn't make this too clear.

Thanks in advance.


MrRonFL
08-14-08, 04:50 PM
Sure, once you get to the prompt in *56 programming to transmit the serial number, simply open the cover of the device to trip the tamper switch.

Speedy742
08-14-08, 05:56 PM
the *56 menu seems not to function in the Vista-10PSIA model - I think you might need to connect via some console. When I go into the *56 I get no prompts like many of the other menus.


kcxj
08-14-08, 06:33 PM
What keypad are you using?

Speedy742
08-14-08, 09:34 PM
Ademco 6150. Is there a problem with this?

PRO1 TECH
08-15-08, 03:42 AM
yes you need a 6160 key pad

http://site.doityourselfsecuritysystems.com/files/keypads/6160_data.pdf

Speedy742
08-15-08, 08:50 AM
Thank you very much.

Has anyone added hard-wired glass break detectors to the Vista-10P? If so which ones did you use?

MrRonFL
08-15-08, 10:47 AM
Sure, adding them physically is just a matter of getting a 4-conductor wire from the panel homerun to the device location, but you still need the proper keypad to access *56 zone programming to set the zone to the correct configuration.

I favor the Sentrol Shatterpro devices, especially the 5812 round model. It's the least obtrusive of the designs.

http://www.gesecurity.com/portal/site/GESecurity/menuitem.f76d98ccce4cabed5efa421766030730?selectedID=1182&seriesyn=true&seriesID=

Speedy742
08-15-08, 06:41 PM
Perfect. looks great.

The instruction manual doesn't seem to give too much away though. Sure, I can take 12V from the AUX power from the Vista-10p; however, I assume that the N.C and COM terminals get connected in series (I would like to install 5 in total)? Which side goes to HIGH and which to LO?

Also, I have noted that my current hard-wire zones have a EOLR, do I need to install one of these for the glass break detector zone? I assume the power side doesn't need such -- only the closed circuit?

Finally, rather than purchase a new keypad, would it be possible to wire the glass break detectors in with one of the current zones (contact sensors) or do all the devices in series need to be the same type?

Thanks.

MrRonFL
08-16-08, 06:00 AM
Yes, you can wire the additional device(s) into an existing zone(s) There is no polarity on the zone input (at least for something like a glass break or motion), the relays on the glass breaks are just a switch.

All typical alarm loops (except for fire) are a series circuit of normally closed switches, and you do need the end of line resistor somewhere in the circuit for each loop.

Add up the current draw for your 5 glass breaks. You should be ok, but remember that the 10P is a limited system, so you don't have a lot of excess power to play with.

Speedy742
08-16-08, 07:40 AM
sounds like I could save myself from buying a new keypad.

Thank you VERY VERY much for the replies. I apprecaite you taking the time out to answer my question. That is kind of you.

Again, thank you.