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DLFDOS
08-09-08, 01:34 PM
RHEEM SPLIT SYSTEM
RETURNED TO SOUTHERN CALIF. FROM AFTER ONE WEEK VISITING MY SICK MOTHER.
NOTICED CEILING BELOW AIR HANDLER / FURNACE SEVERELY WATER DAMAGED.
HAVING HARD FINANCIAL SITUATION, NO PRIOR MECHANICAL OR AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM EXPERIENCE, FAIRLY INTELLIGENT AND LOTS OF TIME ON MY HANDS.
IN ATTIC, I DISCOVERED THERE WAS NO DRAIN LINE ATTATCHED TO SECONDARY METAL PAN WHICH WAS TO SMALL TO COVER UNIT AND WAS FULL AND CASCADING OVER SIDE ON FLOOR AND THROUGH CEILING BELOW. HOUSE AND RHEEM CLASSIC 1 X UNIT 15 YRS OLD.
I CONNECT P.V.C. PIPING AND LINK INTO CLOSEST SINK PRIOR TO DRAIN TRAP. WATER FLOWS OUT OF PAN INTO DRAIN.
WHILE IN ATTIC, I NOTICE BOTTOM OF AIR CONDITIONING CASING "PLENUM" SOMEWHAT RUSTED, I DISCONNECT ALL DUCT WORK AND DISASSEMBLE CASE (PLENUM). LOOKING INSIDE I DISCOVER IN BOTTOM OF CASE, THE PRIMARY CONDENSATION PAN TOTALLY RUSTED OUT.
A FRIEND WHO OWNS A SHEET METAL MACHINE SHOP, DOES ME A FAVOR AND MAKES ME AN EXACT REPLACEMENT INTERIOR PRIMARY CONDENSATION PAN, AND NEW BOTTOM OF CASING (PLENUM) SO I REPLACE INTERIOR PAN AND CONNECT IT TO P.V.C. LINKING TO SINK DRAIN, SCREW BACK NEW BOTTOM AND RECONNECT DUCTS TO PLENUM. I FIGURE I MIGHT AS WELL REPLACE SMALL SECONDARY PAN WITH NEW LARGE PLASTIC PAN SO I AM NOW READY TO TEST IT ALL OUT. I TURN SYSTEM ON AND LEAVE IT ON FOR FOUR HOURS.
I GO INTO ATTIC AND DISCOVER THAT MY SECONDARY PLASTIC PAN IS ONCE AGAIN FILLING WITH WATER. WHY ? WHAT DID I DO WRONG ? WHY IS THE WATER NOT DRAINING FROM THE INTERIOR PRIMARY PAN INTO THE P.V.C. PIPING LEADING INTO THE NEARBY SINK DRAIN. IT IS NOT CLOGGED I RAN A HOSE THROUGH IT AND IT DRAINS NICELY INTO THE SINK. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE GRAVITY FED DRIPPING OF THE COIL IS NOT BEING CAUGHT BY THE NEW INTERIOR PRIMARY PAN AND BEING DISPOSED OF AS SHOULD BE THE CASE INTO THE SINK DRAIN. HELP ME PLEASE
DLFDOS@AOL.COM
THANKS
DAVID:confused:
RETURNED TO SOUTHERN CALIF. FROM AFTER ONE WEEK VISITING MY SICK MOTHER.
NOTICED CEILING BELOW AIR HANDLER / FURNACE SEVERELY WATER DAMAGED.
HAVING HARD FINANCIAL SITUATION, NO PRIOR MECHANICAL OR AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM EXPERIENCE, FAIRLY INTELLIGENT AND LOTS OF TIME ON MY HANDS.
IN ATTIC, I DISCOVERED THERE WAS NO DRAIN LINE ATTATCHED TO SECONDARY METAL PAN WHICH WAS TO SMALL TO COVER UNIT AND WAS FULL AND CASCADING OVER SIDE ON FLOOR AND THROUGH CEILING BELOW. HOUSE AND RHEEM CLASSIC 1 X UNIT 15 YRS OLD.
I CONNECT P.V.C. PIPING AND LINK INTO CLOSEST SINK PRIOR TO DRAIN TRAP. WATER FLOWS OUT OF PAN INTO DRAIN.
WHILE IN ATTIC, I NOTICE BOTTOM OF AIR CONDITIONING CASING "PLENUM" SOMEWHAT RUSTED, I DISCONNECT ALL DUCT WORK AND DISASSEMBLE CASE (PLENUM). LOOKING INSIDE I DISCOVER IN BOTTOM OF CASE, THE PRIMARY CONDENSATION PAN TOTALLY RUSTED OUT.
A FRIEND WHO OWNS A SHEET METAL MACHINE SHOP, DOES ME A FAVOR AND MAKES ME AN EXACT REPLACEMENT INTERIOR PRIMARY CONDENSATION PAN, AND NEW BOTTOM OF CASING (PLENUM) SO I REPLACE INTERIOR PAN AND CONNECT IT TO P.V.C. LINKING TO SINK DRAIN, SCREW BACK NEW BOTTOM AND RECONNECT DUCTS TO PLENUM. I FIGURE I MIGHT AS WELL REPLACE SMALL SECONDARY PAN WITH NEW LARGE PLASTIC PAN SO I AM NOW READY TO TEST IT ALL OUT. I TURN SYSTEM ON AND LEAVE IT ON FOR FOUR HOURS.
I GO INTO ATTIC AND DISCOVER THAT MY SECONDARY PLASTIC PAN IS ONCE AGAIN FILLING WITH WATER. WHY ? WHAT DID I DO WRONG ? WHY IS THE WATER NOT DRAINING FROM THE INTERIOR PRIMARY PAN INTO THE P.V.C. PIPING LEADING INTO THE NEARBY SINK DRAIN. IT IS NOT CLOGGED I RAN A HOSE THROUGH IT AND IT DRAINS NICELY INTO THE SINK. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE GRAVITY FED DRIPPING OF THE COIL IS NOT BEING CAUGHT BY THE NEW INTERIOR PRIMARY PAN AND BEING DISPOSED OF AS SHOULD BE THE CASE INTO THE SINK DRAIN. HELP ME PLEASE
DLFDOS@AOL.COM
THANKS
DAVID:confused:
Jarredsdad
08-09-08, 02:27 PM
Dave, turn off caps, please.
Did you check if the unit was close to level, but tilted slightly towards the drain?
Ptrap in line?
Did you check if the unit was close to level, but tilted slightly towards the drain?
Ptrap in line?
ecman51`
08-09-08, 02:39 PM
Have you read this fairly recent thread?
http://forum.doityourself.com/showthread.php?t=354355
I've given up. Venting was raised by moderator Grady. But I fail to understand how a drain line cannot drain if it is not pulling a vacuum. There can't be a vacuum because the pan is open, not closed. Very odd. And now you have opened old wounds. :)
If you and I don't get this resolved, I will consult HVAC person I consult with at an HVAC supply house.
Have YOU tried to just fill the pan without running the a/c, to see if the water drains that way? IF it drains that way, then I would say without proper venting in the line, the air handler running would be pulling a vacuum and interfering with syphon action.
http://forum.doityourself.com/showthread.php?t=354355
I've given up. Venting was raised by moderator Grady. But I fail to understand how a drain line cannot drain if it is not pulling a vacuum. There can't be a vacuum because the pan is open, not closed. Very odd. And now you have opened old wounds. :)
If you and I don't get this resolved, I will consult HVAC person I consult with at an HVAC supply house.
Have YOU tried to just fill the pan without running the a/c, to see if the water drains that way? IF it drains that way, then I would say without proper venting in the line, the air handler running would be pulling a vacuum and interfering with syphon action.