Outdoor Power Equipment and Small Engines - JD L series tries to start and backfires

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psalm126
07-25-08, 09:23 AM
My L series John Deere quit on me yesterday. It tries to turn over but backfires instead. The spark plug looks good. I pulled the line between the fuel filter and the engine and gas flows freely through the filter. Don' know what to do next.


Airman
07-25-08, 10:47 AM
Could you post the engine model number, etc. please.

psalm126
07-25-08, 11:02 AM
Could you post the engine model number, etc. please.

It is a Kohler 17.5 in a JD L110


Airman
07-25-08, 11:14 AM
We are getting closer. The engine will have a tag that has the model number and spec number on it. The numbers on this tag is what I am after.

Pull the carburetor bowl and see if it has water in it. Clean it of course.

psalm126
07-25-08, 11:29 AM
We are getting closer. The engine will have a tag that has the model number and spec number on it. The numbers on this tag is what I am after.

Pull the carburetor bowl and see if it has water in it. Clean it of course.

spec- PS 27509

model CV491S

Airman
07-25-08, 11:54 AM
Install a new sparkplug, if that don’t work check carburetor for water.

psalm126
07-25-08, 11:57 AM
Install a new sparkplug, if that don’t work check carburetor for water.

OKay, btw it had been running fine for 45 minutes before it shut off.

Airman
07-25-08, 12:04 PM
Try the plug.

Other things that can cause this symptom are timing and carburetor. As you said it had been running thats why I said plug and water in carburetor.

psalm126
07-25-08, 12:38 PM
Try the plug.

Other things that can cause this symptom are timing and carburetor. As you said it had been running thats why I said plug and water in carburetor.

thanks, the bowl was ok. I'll go out and get a new plug.

psalm126
07-25-08, 04:12 PM
Okay, new spark plug installed and now it backfires with renewed gusto! LOL

psalm126
07-25-08, 04:15 PM
Is it possible that it has to do with the pto [reverse] switch?:wall:
Or, the seat switch?:wall:

cheese
07-26-08, 12:39 AM
Not likely. I don't generally tell folks to check the flywheel key on rider engines, but you might want to check yours. It does sound like the timing is off. Remove the flywheel bolt and you can see the key and verify it's condition.

psalm126
07-26-08, 04:34 AM
Not likely. I don't generally tell folks to check the flywheel key on rider engines, but you might want to check yours. It does sound like the timing is off. Remove the flywheel bolt and you can see the key and verify it's condition.

2 things;
am i supposed to know where the flywheel bolt is?:D

And is this something that would happen all of a sudden while mowing?:confused:

Airman
07-26-08, 05:40 AM
Timing is set by the position of the flywheel, which is held in the position by a key. The key also serves as a shear device in case the engine comes to a sudden halt. As Cheese pointed out a sheared or partially sheared key is not normally associated with an engine on a riding mower. But it can and does happen, just from normal use - Murphy’s Law.

Checking this key is simply the next step in troubleshooting. For someone who does this on a regular basis it is just the next logical thing to check.

If you do not know where the flywheel nut is, I suggest you take your machine in for repair. If the key checks out it only gets more complicated. To remove the flywheel nut requires an impact wrench or flywheel-holding tool and large wrench. If it is sheared, you will need a flywheel puller.

You have been take through the easy steps just as I or Cheese would do if he were working on your machine.

Good luck

psalm126
07-26-08, 05:52 AM
Thank you :) :coffee: :wall: :rolleyes: