Water Softeners and Air Filtration Systems - Water Treatment Plan...Pls Comment
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moparguy
07-15-08, 01:30 PM
We would like to eliminate our soft water and bottled water service. I have researched this site and a couple others, spoken with CK Moore at Ohio Water Co, and such. Our home is already plumbed for soft water, not sure if its the supply line or just the hot water circuit (should I check?). Here is some info and water test numbers:
People in home: 3
No of full bathrooms: 3
TDS: 300ppm
Chlorine: 1.5ppm
Total Alkalinity: 140ppm
Copper: 0
Hardness: 180ppm
Iron: 0
pH: 7.6
Flow: 7GPM
Supply line: 3/4"
City water supply
Based on the above Mr. Moore recommended the 32000 grain Fleck 5600SE with KDF55 Media Guard Unit.
For TDS management, drinking water, he recommended the Microline TFC35A RO, but I'm leaning toward the Costco version of the Watts Zero Waste ZRO4 System.
Opinions welcome...TIA!
People in home: 3
No of full bathrooms: 3
TDS: 300ppm
Chlorine: 1.5ppm
Total Alkalinity: 140ppm
Copper: 0
Hardness: 180ppm
Iron: 0
pH: 7.6
Flow: 7GPM
Supply line: 3/4"
City water supply
Based on the above Mr. Moore recommended the 32000 grain Fleck 5600SE with KDF55 Media Guard Unit.
For TDS management, drinking water, he recommended the Microline TFC35A RO, but I'm leaning toward the Costco version of the Watts Zero Waste ZRO4 System.
Opinions welcome...TIA!
malious intent
07-15-08, 04:26 PM
spend the extra and get a kentico!!!!!!!!!!!!
AndyC
07-15-08, 08:13 PM
Chlorine: 1.5ppm...
...with KDF55 Media Guard Unit.
Opinions welcome...TIA!
The media guard is to treat the chlorine. It will work for a while but eventually needs to be re-bedded. This is a rather difficult job as the media is inside the sofener tank.
You need to calculate the the backwash rate. It will most likely be the four-chamber unit. Each tank contains one pound of KDF. That means you need a four-gallon-per minute backwash rate. Less than that, you need to reduce the media at a pound per gallon per minute.
John Heskett, from KDF, pointed this out to me. I have used a couple in the past, but no more. It would be better to have a separate filter ahead of the softener to do the same task. Cheaper to get, cahnge and operate.
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
...with KDF55 Media Guard Unit.
Opinions welcome...TIA!
The media guard is to treat the chlorine. It will work for a while but eventually needs to be re-bedded. This is a rather difficult job as the media is inside the sofener tank.
You need to calculate the the backwash rate. It will most likely be the four-chamber unit. Each tank contains one pound of KDF. That means you need a four-gallon-per minute backwash rate. Less than that, you need to reduce the media at a pound per gallon per minute.
John Heskett, from KDF, pointed this out to me. I have used a couple in the past, but no more. It would be better to have a separate filter ahead of the softener to do the same task. Cheaper to get, cahnge and operate.
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
moparguy
07-15-08, 08:56 PM
Andy, I appreciate the response but you left me in the dust. I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to determine the backwash rate.
Could you recommend a different system or configuration that would have the filter ahead of the softener?
Could you recommend a different system or configuration that would have the filter ahead of the softener?
AndyC
07-16-08, 05:52 AM
What do you mean you "want to eliminate your softwater...service" Your recommended equipment won't improve on your bottled water service as far as quality is concerned.
Here is a manual of the valve. A the bottom of page 2 you can find the backwash rate (DLFC). Look at the size of your tank and you can see if it works.
http://www.pwgazette.com/manuals/fleck5600.pdf
If chlorine is what you are addressing, then an up-flow carbon filter is a good choice. An 8- or 10-inch tank will serve you well both in longevity and flow rate.
Smaller replaceable filter will also work but will need to be replaced more often and you may have occasional flow restrictions.
Sorry to leave you in the dust.
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
Here is a manual of the valve. A the bottom of page 2 you can find the backwash rate (DLFC). Look at the size of your tank and you can see if it works.
http://www.pwgazette.com/manuals/fleck5600.pdf
If chlorine is what you are addressing, then an up-flow carbon filter is a good choice. An 8- or 10-inch tank will serve you well both in longevity and flow rate.
Smaller replaceable filter will also work but will need to be replaced more often and you may have occasional flow restrictions.
Sorry to leave you in the dust.
Andy Christensen, CWS-II
moparguy
07-18-08, 11:55 PM
Andy
I want to eliminate the monthly charges for both the softwater tanks and bottled water (should have done this years ago).
Anyway I studied up on the KDF and got concurring opinion that (a) the backwash requirement can be an issue - packing and potential pressure loss - and (b) I may not really need the KDF as my chlorine level is relatively low and I plan to use the RO for drinking water. I don't have a filter on my softwater now and there are no chlorine issues.
I'm now leaning toward the twin tank concept, possibly the 24K Fleck TwinPro 100E. I understand it has the same controller board as the highly regarded 2510SE.
I want to eliminate the monthly charges for both the softwater tanks and bottled water (should have done this years ago).
Anyway I studied up on the KDF and got concurring opinion that (a) the backwash requirement can be an issue - packing and potential pressure loss - and (b) I may not really need the KDF as my chlorine level is relatively low and I plan to use the RO for drinking water. I don't have a filter on my softwater now and there are no chlorine issues.
I'm now leaning toward the twin tank concept, possibly the 24K Fleck TwinPro 100E. I understand it has the same controller board as the highly regarded 2510SE.