Architecture - Appropriate steel beam size?
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Knick
07-10-08, 06:35 PM
Hello
I am looking for some guidance, I am building a room inside a pole barn. It will be 16' wide X 20' Deep. The Ceiling above will be for storage of normal household type items. One side of the room will have a stud wall the other needs to be open. I want to put a steel beam on that side to carry the ceiling load. I have found a sizing chart and have figured the beam size. I would like anyone to jump in and tell me what you think. The Formula I used I found on the web. the design loads are as follows:
Floor dead load - 10 psf
Floor live load - 40 psf
Roof dead load - 10 psf
Roof live load - 20 psf
vertical load one story = 62
Clear span x joist/2 x vertical factor = / 1000 = KIPS
I came up with a 9.92 kips
So it looks like a w8x13 (11 Kips) would be the one to go with unless
I could go with a w8x10 (9 Kips) because I have no roof load.
Any thoughts?
Thank you for your time
I am looking for some guidance, I am building a room inside a pole barn. It will be 16' wide X 20' Deep. The Ceiling above will be for storage of normal household type items. One side of the room will have a stud wall the other needs to be open. I want to put a steel beam on that side to carry the ceiling load. I have found a sizing chart and have figured the beam size. I would like anyone to jump in and tell me what you think. The Formula I used I found on the web. the design loads are as follows:
Floor dead load - 10 psf
Floor live load - 40 psf
Roof dead load - 10 psf
Roof live load - 20 psf
vertical load one story = 62
Clear span x joist/2 x vertical factor = / 1000 = KIPS
I came up with a 9.92 kips
So it looks like a w8x13 (11 Kips) would be the one to go with unless
I could go with a w8x10 (9 Kips) because I have no roof load.
Any thoughts?
Thank you for your time
Knick
07-17-08, 10:07 AM
Anyone care to comment? there has to be someone here that has some knowledge of steel beams.
waterwelldude
07-17-08, 01:42 PM
I cant help ya myself,BUT, I found a great toolbox with some helpfull stuff...
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/beams-support-forces-d_1311.html
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/beams-support-forces-d_1311.html
Knick
07-18-08, 06:21 AM
Hi Waterwelldude
That is going to take a lot smarter guy then me to use!:)
plus I dont think that will size the beam and thats what im looking for.
Thank you for your time
Knick
I cant help ya myself,BUT, I found a great toolbox with some helpfull stuff...
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/beams-support-forces-d_1311.html
That is going to take a lot smarter guy then me to use!:)
plus I dont think that will size the beam and thats what im looking for.
Thank you for your time
Knick
I cant help ya myself,BUT, I found a great toolbox with some helpfull stuff...
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/beams-support-forces-d_1311.html
OhioDraft
07-31-08, 01:45 PM
well I have software at home that sizes structural wood and steel so I could run that calc for you later. I am confused however you say you have 30 psf roof design load which is what I use, depends on your region, but further down in the post you said you have no roof load to carry. So I can't run a calc unless you clarify.
Concretemasonry
07-31-08, 02:03 PM
Your description is really not complete and/or realistic. Is the room in a corner of the pole barn (2 sides) or in the center (3 sides) and what is the span for the beam you propose.
I only get what you think to plan on storing, but I don't know what could really be up there. Over-ceiling stroage areas of having a lot more the 40 psf in the real word depending on the habits of the occupants.
You should also provide information on what the beam is bearing on (end of a stud wall or a column?).
Dick
I only get what you think to plan on storing, but I don't know what could really be up there. Over-ceiling stroage areas of having a lot more the 40 psf in the real word depending on the habits of the occupants.
You should also provide information on what the beam is bearing on (end of a stud wall or a column?).
Dick