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CandiMan
07-02-08, 06:09 PM
I planted three purple leaf plum tress back in early spring. And of course after I planted the tree, that's when I did my research. They are prone to disease and insects. That aside, I decided to keep them. They are doing rather well and growing. During my research I read that these trees are naturally a vase shape tree. But I've seen some pictures where the canopy was more open
This is a pic of one of the purple leaf plum in my front yard
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/496000-496999/496700_243_full.jpg
Here's a pic I found on the internet showing the tree in it's natural vase shape (so I've read)
http://treegrowersdiary.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/weepnomore5.04.jpg
Here's another pic from the internet showing how I would like my PLP to be shape like
http://davescompletelawncare.com/trees/purple_leaf_plum_lg.jpg
I realize the simpliest answer to my question is to prune the tree. Where is the best place to prune in order to achieve the shape I'm looking for?
Thanks
Mike
This is a pic of one of the purple leaf plum in my front yard
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/4/web/496000-496999/496700_243_full.jpg
Here's a pic I found on the internet showing the tree in it's natural vase shape (so I've read)
http://treegrowersdiary.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/weepnomore5.04.jpg
Here's another pic from the internet showing how I would like my PLP to be shape like
http://davescompletelawncare.com/trees/purple_leaf_plum_lg.jpg
I realize the simpliest answer to my question is to prune the tree. Where is the best place to prune in order to achieve the shape I'm looking for?
Thanks
Mike
Newt
07-03-08, 07:44 PM
Hi Mike,
Different varieties of purple leaf plums have different shapes. Newport is one of the roundest. You can read about many different varieties here.
http://www.arthurleej.com/a-purplumwest.html
If you do want to try and prune it to shape it a bit differently, you will need to do quite a bit of reading. Sometimes the vase shape that you have is caused by overcrowding in the nursery where they are grown. This site has extensive info on pruning by a most respected arborist in the industry. You can click on the links at the bottom of the info box.
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/pruning/index.htm
There is something else I see in your picture that concerns me that I'd like to point out. It appears your tree is planted too deep with too much mulch. Check to see if you can see the rootflare. Here's some helpful sites that show how to plant and mulch a tree and look for the rootfare.
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/rootgrowthdevelopingflare.html
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/rootcomingtotop.html
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/rootgrowthdontsoil.html
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/overmulching.html
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/rootgrowtheffectsdeep.html
http://www.treesaregood.com/treecare/mulching.aspx
You should also consider removing the guy wires now.
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/staking.html
Newt
Different varieties of purple leaf plums have different shapes. Newport is one of the roundest. You can read about many different varieties here.
http://www.arthurleej.com/a-purplumwest.html
If you do want to try and prune it to shape it a bit differently, you will need to do quite a bit of reading. Sometimes the vase shape that you have is caused by overcrowding in the nursery where they are grown. This site has extensive info on pruning by a most respected arborist in the industry. You can click on the links at the bottom of the info box.
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/pruning/index.htm
There is something else I see in your picture that concerns me that I'd like to point out. It appears your tree is planted too deep with too much mulch. Check to see if you can see the rootflare. Here's some helpful sites that show how to plant and mulch a tree and look for the rootfare.
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/rootgrowthdevelopingflare.html
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/rootcomingtotop.html
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/rootgrowthdontsoil.html
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/overmulching.html
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/rootgrowtheffectsdeep.html
http://www.treesaregood.com/treecare/mulching.aspx
You should also consider removing the guy wires now.
http://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/staking.html
Newt
CandiMan
07-29-08, 01:10 AM
Newt, thanks for the info. I Googled each variety of purple leaf plum to find a pic of each.
ALLRED - unable to find photo
BIG CIS
http://www.jfschmidt.com/introductions/bigcis/48602b.jpg
BLIREIANA
http://www.wcainc.com/wca/047.jpg
CISTENA
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/prucis/prucis54.jpg
HOLLYWOOD - unable to find photo
KRAUTER'S VESUVIUS
http://www.rosevilletrees.org/trees/images/plum.jpg
or
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ldplants/images/prcekv81.jpg
MOSERI - unable to find photo
MT. ST. HELENS - unable to find photo
ALLRED - unable to find photo
BIG CIS
http://www.jfschmidt.com/introductions/bigcis/48602b.jpg
BLIREIANA
http://www.wcainc.com/wca/047.jpg
CISTENA
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/prucis/prucis54.jpg
HOLLYWOOD - unable to find photo
KRAUTER'S VESUVIUS
http://www.rosevilletrees.org/trees/images/plum.jpg
or
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ldplants/images/prcekv81.jpg
MOSERI - unable to find photo
MT. ST. HELENS - unable to find photo
CandiMan
07-29-08, 01:14 AM
NEWPORT
http://www.fast-growing-trees.com/images/Plum_Newport_tree_220.jpg
NIGRA or PISSARDII
http://www.plantpress.com/plant-encyclopedia/images/n03168-996766_l_480.jpg
PURPLE PONY or DWARF PURPLE PONY
http://www.wcainc.com/wca/396.jpg
SPENCER HOLLYWOOD
http://www.arthurleej.com/images/Spencer.jpg
THUNDERCLOUD (most often sold)
http://www.treegrowersdiary.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/PLP-afterprune52806.jpg
TRAILBLAZER - unable to find photo
And finally VESUVIUS - unable to find photo
For those who might be considering this tree, hope these pics help.
http://www.fast-growing-trees.com/images/Plum_Newport_tree_220.jpg
NIGRA or PISSARDII
http://www.plantpress.com/plant-encyclopedia/images/n03168-996766_l_480.jpg
PURPLE PONY or DWARF PURPLE PONY
http://www.wcainc.com/wca/396.jpg
SPENCER HOLLYWOOD
http://www.arthurleej.com/images/Spencer.jpg
THUNDERCLOUD (most often sold)
http://www.treegrowersdiary.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/PLP-afterprune52806.jpg
TRAILBLAZER - unable to find photo
And finally VESUVIUS - unable to find photo
For those who might be considering this tree, hope these pics help.
Newt
07-29-08, 10:59 PM
Wonderful photos. Thanks for posting those.
Newt
Newt
CandiMan
07-30-08, 12:02 AM
Wonderful photos. Thanks for posting those.
Newt
No, thank you..................................
Newt
No, thank you..................................
Newt
07-30-08, 01:10 AM
You are so very welcome! Glad I could help.
Newt
Newt