Greenhouses, Sheds and Sun Rooms - Shed Roof Framing Problem
Doityourself.com community forum was created to provide answers to all questions related to home improvement and home repair. Doityourself community can help you find information about how-to topics on small fixes to large remodeling projects. With comprehensive how-to content and expertly moderated community forums DoItYourself.com makes it easy to tackle even the most complex home improvement projects.View Full Version : Shed Roof Framing Problem
Robert M
06-21-08, 10:20 PM
I'm in the midst of framing an 8x9 shed, and having problems with the roof framing. It's 'up' now but I'm not confident in its integrity, before I go further I wanted to see if anyone could help.
The roof is based on a 2x8 beam with 2x6 rafters. Rafters anchored to the walls with H1 anchors and birds mouth cuts. The rafters are also secured with 2x4 rafter ties at the top plate level. Couple of questions:
1) The plan I am working from (unfortunately) simply says 'install rafters'. The elevation shows the rafters simply meeting at the beam. Obviously I cannot face nail both rafters into the beam at the same point, but neither the materials list nor the instructions call for any hardware to help secure them to the beam. I ended up offsetting them so each is facenailed into the beam. Will this work?
2) Although I cut every rafter to the template, the rafters are not 100% flush with the beam -- they are separating a bit (up to about 1/8" on one or two) at the bottom. My partner says this ok since the rafters are facenailed to the beam, anchored at the wall, tied with 2x4s, and the ridge is supported by gables and studs at each end. Somehow though I just don't like that gap at the bottom.
3) Umm...slightly embarrassed about this one but my first time with these -- but I also think the H1 anchors are in backwards (the sleeve nailed to the rafter is outside). They're nailed in good but will this be a problem?
I really don't want to rip the whole thing down and start over, but even worse would be to have it come down on its own! Appreciate any help. This is just a basic shed, no heavy snow loads, moderate wind conditions at times.
Thanks for helping out. "Learn by doing" and I'm enjoying doing this, but I want to get it right.
Robert
The roof is based on a 2x8 beam with 2x6 rafters. Rafters anchored to the walls with H1 anchors and birds mouth cuts. The rafters are also secured with 2x4 rafter ties at the top plate level. Couple of questions:
1) The plan I am working from (unfortunately) simply says 'install rafters'. The elevation shows the rafters simply meeting at the beam. Obviously I cannot face nail both rafters into the beam at the same point, but neither the materials list nor the instructions call for any hardware to help secure them to the beam. I ended up offsetting them so each is facenailed into the beam. Will this work?
2) Although I cut every rafter to the template, the rafters are not 100% flush with the beam -- they are separating a bit (up to about 1/8" on one or two) at the bottom. My partner says this ok since the rafters are facenailed to the beam, anchored at the wall, tied with 2x4s, and the ridge is supported by gables and studs at each end. Somehow though I just don't like that gap at the bottom.
3) Umm...slightly embarrassed about this one but my first time with these -- but I also think the H1 anchors are in backwards (the sleeve nailed to the rafter is outside). They're nailed in good but will this be a problem?
I really don't want to rip the whole thing down and start over, but even worse would be to have it come down on its own! Appreciate any help. This is just a basic shed, no heavy snow loads, moderate wind conditions at times.
Thanks for helping out. "Learn by doing" and I'm enjoying doing this, but I want to get it right.
Robert
Bill62
06-22-08, 04:06 AM
1) Yes this is fine
2) It happens sometimes, if it really bothers you cut a wedge and glue it in with construction adhesive.
3) Shouldn't be a problem on a shed, as long as it is attached to the rafter above the plate. If below the plate the rafter tail will eventually crack. Inspector may have a problem with this either way.
2) It happens sometimes, if it really bothers you cut a wedge and glue it in with construction adhesive.
3) Shouldn't be a problem on a shed, as long as it is attached to the rafter above the plate. If below the plate the rafter tail will eventually crack. Inspector may have a problem with this either way.