Electronic Alarms and Home Security Devices - Wired Motion Detectors and door Switches
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xwave
06-04-08, 08:57 PM
I have looked all the web but have not found a anwser
this is my first installation and i have two motion and two door swtches,
motion one is in living room and switch one is on front door,
motion two is in hallway switch is on back door,
how do i wire these in to the vista-20p
do i wire motion zone 3, switch zone 4, motion zone 5, switch zone 6. add the eol to each ?
or do i wire the switch 1st in loop to motion and then eol on zone 3, and then switch 1st in loop to motion and then eol on zone 4?
these are the only things i have on the system along with one one 6150 and one 6720 + siren
thanks for any help,
PS i know the programing but not the wireing of the zones
and i know i will have to disable the zones i and not going to use.
this is my first installation and i have two motion and two door swtches,
motion one is in living room and switch one is on front door,
motion two is in hallway switch is on back door,
how do i wire these in to the vista-20p
do i wire motion zone 3, switch zone 4, motion zone 5, switch zone 6. add the eol to each ?
or do i wire the switch 1st in loop to motion and then eol on zone 3, and then switch 1st in loop to motion and then eol on zone 4?
these are the only things i have on the system along with one one 6150 and one 6720 + siren
thanks for any help,
PS i know the programing but not the wireing of the zones
and i know i will have to disable the zones i and not going to use.
MrRonFL
06-05-08, 05:44 AM
Your question is a little confusing, but I'll give it a shot.
Motion: wire with 4 conductor wire. Red & Black to + & - power for the device ends up at + & - aux power on the motherboard (the same terminals that power the keypads) Use the other pair for the alarm contact in the device. Install your resistor in _series_ with the alarm loop, either at the detector end (best), or at the panel end. At the panel one leg of the loop goes to the zone input, the other goes to common.
For a contact like a door/window, the same applies, the resistor is is series with the contact switch, one leg goes to zone input the other goes to common.
Each alarm loop gets it's own resistor.
Motion: wire with 4 conductor wire. Red & Black to + & - power for the device ends up at + & - aux power on the motherboard (the same terminals that power the keypads) Use the other pair for the alarm contact in the device. Install your resistor in _series_ with the alarm loop, either at the detector end (best), or at the panel end. At the panel one leg of the loop goes to the zone input, the other goes to common.
For a contact like a door/window, the same applies, the resistor is is series with the contact switch, one leg goes to zone input the other goes to common.
Each alarm loop gets it's own resistor.
xwave
06-05-08, 09:04 AM
thanks
but i just wanted to know what zones they are wired to and can i wire them to its own zone and if so where do the resisters go for the enter/exit switchs.
I have it wired like this rite now living room motion detector on zone3, front door zone4, hall motion detector zone5, back door zone6.
rite now motion detectors are working fine, but the doors are
giving faults.
one thing i did was put the resiter one the wire at the switch
is this where they go or do i have to wire the resister at the panel, and could this be the reason the doors show a fault could the resisters cause a short where they are now.
but i just wanted to know what zones they are wired to and can i wire them to its own zone and if so where do the resisters go for the enter/exit switchs.
I have it wired like this rite now living room motion detector on zone3, front door zone4, hall motion detector zone5, back door zone6.
rite now motion detectors are working fine, but the doors are
giving faults.
one thing i did was put the resiter one the wire at the switch
is this where they go or do i have to wire the resister at the panel, and could this be the reason the doors show a fault could the resisters cause a short where they are now.
xwave
06-05-08, 09:58 AM
i have a front door and a back door hardwired in the vista-20p
i just wanted to know what zones they are wired to and can i wire them to its own zone and if so where placed the resistors
I have it wired like this rite now living room motion detector on zone3, front door zone4, hall motion detector zone5, back door zone6.
rite now motion detectors are working fine, but the doors are
giving faults.
one thing i did was put the resitor on the wire at the switch
is this where they go or do i have to wire the resistor at the panel, and could this be the reason the doors show a fault could the resistors cause a comunication problem with the pannel where they are now.
:confused:
i just wanted to know what zones they are wired to and can i wire them to its own zone and if so where placed the resistors
I have it wired like this rite now living room motion detector on zone3, front door zone4, hall motion detector zone5, back door zone6.
rite now motion detectors are working fine, but the doors are
giving faults.
one thing i did was put the resitor on the wire at the switch
is this where they go or do i have to wire the resistor at the panel, and could this be the reason the doors show a fault could the resistors cause a comunication problem with the pannel where they are now.
:confused:
dismalduck
06-05-08, 12:04 PM
Hi, I am new to this forum and all forums for that matter, so if I am stepping on the moderators toes let me know and I will butt out. I used to install security systems in another life.
Just a hint as to what may be causing the fault on your door contacts. Make sure they have normally open contacts and not normally closed. Good Luck with your project. Mike
Just a hint as to what may be causing the fault on your door contacts. Make sure they have normally open contacts and not normally closed. Good Luck with your project. Mike
MrRonFL
06-05-08, 04:02 PM
Actually, the best location for the resistor is at the contact. If you have access to an ohmmeter, check the wire at the panel end (disconnect it from the terminal strip) You should see the 2k resistance (+/- a bit), if not, check and make sure your magnet is actually lining up with your contact.
If you are installing the resistor at the contact one of your wire pair goes directly to the contact, the other goes to one leg of the resistor. The remaining leg of the resistor is then connected to the remaining terminal/wire on the contact.
You may simply have a bad wiring connection.
Yes, you can put them on any zone input you want, the zones are programmable, and have to be configured to match what you want them to do.
If you are installing the resistor at the contact one of your wire pair goes directly to the contact, the other goes to one leg of the resistor. The remaining leg of the resistor is then connected to the remaining terminal/wire on the contact.
You may simply have a bad wiring connection.
Yes, you can put them on any zone input you want, the zones are programmable, and have to be configured to match what you want them to do.
xwave
06-05-08, 07:57 PM
the wiring is fine i think it is a program problem
I am setting the motion detectors as folowers and the doors
as entery/exit 1 and 2 but no matter what i try it will show as afult on both doors. i have tried *56 and set it to defult options no change i made a *182 custom zone and *56 to set it up but no change.
i think the custom zone program is a little confusing with out some help
can you help me
My goal is to have it set to arm/stay and arm/away with out a mnitoring service i have the modem set to call my sell phone, my next door neibor, and my bother if one of us cannot get to the house
I am setting the motion detectors as folowers and the doors
as entery/exit 1 and 2 but no matter what i try it will show as afult on both doors. i have tried *56 and set it to defult options no change i made a *182 custom zone and *56 to set it up but no change.
i think the custom zone program is a little confusing with out some help
can you help me
My goal is to have it set to arm/stay and arm/away with out a mnitoring service i have the modem set to call my sell phone, my next door neibor, and my bother if one of us cannot get to the house
xwave
06-05-08, 09:20 PM
I figured it out in *182 and *184 I used
#12 0 4 4 #12 0 0 5 6 4
and i am at the home screen with a ready to arm.
thank you so much by the way I am a computer tech by trade and this was the hardest program for me to figure out
but i did it.
cheers to this forum and i hope that if any one can use these codes for the system they are installing they will see this site as a real source of information as i have.
thank you Mike
#12 0 4 4 #12 0 0 5 6 4
and i am at the home screen with a ready to arm.
thank you so much by the way I am a computer tech by trade and this was the hardest program for me to figure out
but i did it.
cheers to this forum and i hope that if any one can use these codes for the system they are installing they will see this site as a real source of information as i have.
thank you Mike
MrRonFL
06-06-08, 05:32 AM
I'm not sure why you needed to use a custom zone type to set a standard entry/exit zone and an interior zone.
That would have been simply set in *56 mode using one of the standard zone types.
The basic test for whether you had a wiring problem would be to put just a resistor across the zone input. If the zone closes, then your wiring is the issue.
If you are happy with the result you have, go for it, but you took a very complicated route to get there.
That would have been simply set in *56 mode using one of the standard zone types.
The basic test for whether you had a wiring problem would be to put just a resistor across the zone input. If the zone closes, then your wiring is the issue.
If you are happy with the result you have, go for it, but you took a very complicated route to get there.