Lighting, Light Fixtures, Ceiling and Exhaust Fans - Fan Remote vs dedicated switches
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footy man
05-16-08, 06:46 AM
I am building a new home and had the builder wire a dedicated ceiling fan and dedicated ceiling fan light switch to each room. Each wall switch has 3 wires (blk, white, & green), (red, white and green). When I went to install the 1st ceiling fan, I noticed that the fan only has 3 wires (blk, white, & green). This particular fan (Hampton Bay - Ansley) comes with a remote control. How can I wire it so that I can operate both the light and the fan (independently) using the two dedicated wall switches? I am not a big fan of the remote control, so, if disabling it altogether is a requirement, I would be fine with that. :confused:
joed
05-16-08, 07:19 AM
You can't. You don't have enough wires. Your electrician should have wired the fan to switch with 3 wire cable black, red, white and bare.
Since you mention green wires that indicates this house might be wired with conduit. If it is then you need to pull in another wire. I find it odd that if he knew a ceiling fan was going in he didn't pull the extra wire.
Since you mention green wires that indicates this house might be wired with conduit. If it is then you need to pull in another wire. I find it odd that if he knew a ceiling fan was going in he didn't pull the extra wire.
footy man
05-16-08, 07:27 AM
Joed - the Electrician did wire each switch with (pwr, common and ground). The problem is in the wiring of the fan itself. The fan has only 3 total wires - I need to connect (2) pwr wires to the fan (1 for the light switch & 1 for the fan switch) - that is the problem.
pcboss
05-16-08, 08:45 AM
Footy,
Switches are not wired power, common.
Switches have a constant hot supply, and a switched hot.
What type of wiring is installed? Is it non-metallic cable, commonly called Romex, a metallic cable with a spiral jacket or conduit?
You can use either the remote and leave the switches on OR lose the remote function and probably the ability to change speeds or dim the lights.
Switches are not wired power, common.
Switches have a constant hot supply, and a switched hot.
What type of wiring is installed? Is it non-metallic cable, commonly called Romex, a metallic cable with a spiral jacket or conduit?
You can use either the remote and leave the switches on OR lose the remote function and probably the ability to change speeds or dim the lights.
telecom guy
05-16-08, 10:31 AM
Great for TV's, and fans that are FAR away, like on a 15' ceiling. But until I get to be an invalid, I'm using pull chain for the fan, and wall slider dimmer for the light. All my fans have two hot wires, one for the fan, one for the light, and a common white. After 30 years of using ceiling fans, I can't imagine not having a dimmer, and having to look for some small, hidden remote in the dark.
joed
05-16-08, 11:31 AM
What do the instruction for the fan say.
Most fans have four wires.
Black = fan hot
White = neutral for fan and lights.
blue, red, or black with white stripe = light hot.
Green or bare = ground.
Most fans have four wires.
Black = fan hot
White = neutral for fan and lights.
blue, red, or black with white stripe = light hot.
Green or bare = ground.
John Nelson
05-16-08, 02:49 PM
Sorry, but I don't think I understand anything in this thread. Are there two switches on the wall? What does "(blk, white, & green), (red, white and green)" mean? If there's a red wire at the wall, why isn't there a red wire at the ceiling? Where is the other end of the red wire? Are there any 3-way switches?
rich3236
05-16-08, 03:34 PM
Sounds to me that you have a double switch box on wall, one switch is for fan light and 1 for fan motor.
You are trying to install a fan with a built in remote receiver, these fans only have a black, white and green coming out of them.
These fans can't be wired for a separate fan and light switch because the remote control is designed to switch them separatley without a wall switch
2 choices are -
1. Bring fans back and get a non built in remote fan ( you can buy remote kits separate from fans if needed )
2. Keep fans and wire fan to just one switch and wall mount the remote control next to switch box.
You are trying to install a fan with a built in remote receiver, these fans only have a black, white and green coming out of them.
These fans can't be wired for a separate fan and light switch because the remote control is designed to switch them separatley without a wall switch
2 choices are -
1. Bring fans back and get a non built in remote fan ( you can buy remote kits separate from fans if needed )
2. Keep fans and wire fan to just one switch and wall mount the remote control next to switch box.
John Nelson
05-16-08, 03:45 PM
Ah, thanks Rich. You read this much better than I did.
footy man
05-28-08, 12:00 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies. I took Rich3236' advice and swapped the fans out for models that did NOT have a built in remote. I have 11 ceiling fans in the house in total. Unfortunately, I started with two which came with remotes but only 3 total wires from the fan. I do have 4 other fans that also have remotes, but have 4 fan wires (dedicated light and fan power). All fans are now working fine and I am living the cool life in the Sunshine State.