Lighting, Light Fixtures, Ceiling and Exhaust Fans - Remote for ceiling fans
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mwr
04-14-08, 03:19 PM
I'd like to tag along on this thread for some more info about remotes.......
I am building a new patio, and I want to install a ceiling fan in it. My contractor told me to get a ceiling fan with a remote control....so that he can "hard wire" the fan without the need for a wall switch. I found an outdoor "damp" approved fan that has a "wall mounted" control, but also a wireless remote available as an option. I want the wireless, but not the wall mounted control. Will the wireless remote control the fan without the wall mounted control being installed? (or, I guess another way to ask this...is the receiver for the wireless remote in the fan or the wall mounted control?)
I am building a new patio, and I want to install a ceiling fan in it. My contractor told me to get a ceiling fan with a remote control....so that he can "hard wire" the fan without the need for a wall switch. I found an outdoor "damp" approved fan that has a "wall mounted" control, but also a wireless remote available as an option. I want the wireless, but not the wall mounted control. Will the wireless remote control the fan without the wall mounted control being installed? (or, I guess another way to ask this...is the receiver for the wireless remote in the fan or the wall mounted control?)
chandler
04-15-08, 04:59 AM
The receiver for the remote(s) is in the bell of the fan and controls the fan direction, speed and lights from signals given from the remotes. Not sure what the "wall mounted" control is, other than a switch. If it is a remote as well, just don't use it, or use it instead of the optional handheld remote.
rookieRobert
05-01-08, 05:47 AM
on mine the "wall mounted control" replaces the light switch that controls the fan...... it is not a "hand held remote" so unit must have power... even though it is sending signal to fan WIRELESSLY.
however, the wiring is not like you normally would do with ceiling fan and controlling 2 hots. regular "switch loop" type wiring for wall controller part....... saw 1-2 models that have HAND HELD controllers but these must be battery operated then so no wiring involved -- i would be guessing....
Ceiling fan part >> Chandler is correct.... up inside the bell housing of the fan you put this component (approx dim 2"x3"x2") and it is wired into power leads..... once signal is rec'd from controller it opens/shuts circuits (for fan speed or light)
i took miine out due to loud humm when slowing speed of fan or diming lights.... .i know there is ANOTHER part (sold in electric supply houses) that you can put to reduce this hum but really did not want to be bothered..... without putting blades on and finishing the install i suggest you partially install, check operation to see if this is loud on your model or if ok......
my .02 worth.
rf
however, the wiring is not like you normally would do with ceiling fan and controlling 2 hots. regular "switch loop" type wiring for wall controller part....... saw 1-2 models that have HAND HELD controllers but these must be battery operated then so no wiring involved -- i would be guessing....
Ceiling fan part >> Chandler is correct.... up inside the bell housing of the fan you put this component (approx dim 2"x3"x2") and it is wired into power leads..... once signal is rec'd from controller it opens/shuts circuits (for fan speed or light)
i took miine out due to loud humm when slowing speed of fan or diming lights.... .i know there is ANOTHER part (sold in electric supply houses) that you can put to reduce this hum but really did not want to be bothered..... without putting blades on and finishing the install i suggest you partially install, check operation to see if this is loud on your model or if ok......
my .02 worth.
rf
french277V
05-01-08, 06:19 PM
i took miine out due to loud humm when slowing speed of fan or diming lights.... .i know there is ANOTHER part (sold in electric supply houses) that you can put to reduce this hum but really did not want to be bothered..... without putting blades on and finishing the install i suggest you partially install, check operation to see if this is loud on your model or if ok......
my .02 worth.
rf
that part if you hook up the ceiling fan without fan blades you will not able load the motor up at all ditto with speed control.
the sure way to keep the humming down very low or nonexsting is.,,
if you have pull chain for your fan set that to the HIGH speed setting if you leave this on other setting it WILL humm when you run lower speed.
second thng if you have wall switch there with the remote that fine as long you use the stanard switch not the fan speed controller interwined with the remote controller in the capony bell.
check your mounting bracket some of the fan manufacter do provide a rubber washer between the fanbox and mouning bracket the puropse to reduce the noise trasmmiting thru the structure. [ sorta like tuneing fork ]
hope that should cover that part.
Merci,Marc
my .02 worth.
rf
that part if you hook up the ceiling fan without fan blades you will not able load the motor up at all ditto with speed control.
the sure way to keep the humming down very low or nonexsting is.,,
if you have pull chain for your fan set that to the HIGH speed setting if you leave this on other setting it WILL humm when you run lower speed.
second thng if you have wall switch there with the remote that fine as long you use the stanard switch not the fan speed controller interwined with the remote controller in the capony bell.
check your mounting bracket some of the fan manufacter do provide a rubber washer between the fanbox and mouning bracket the puropse to reduce the noise trasmmiting thru the structure. [ sorta like tuneing fork ]
hope that should cover that part.
Merci,Marc
rich3236
05-01-08, 11:52 PM
Just buy a fan without remote unit built in and get a separate remote control kit for it. Remote kits come in hand held or in wall to replace existing single switch.
Buying a fan without the remote built in gives you more design choices for style of fan. Make sure remote kit you buy is designed for the same brand of fan you get.
The wall mount option is designed more for existing installations where you already have a wall switch but want to control fan and light separate. The hand held remote units control both fan and light no matter if you have it laying on a table or mounted with a wall bracket.
To answer your question about the wall mount being needed, it depends on the brand of fan, some of the higher end fans like "Casablanca Brand" use the wall mount remote as a master control and is required no matter what.
My opinion, get a regular fan like Hampton bay designed for outdoor use(around $100 depending on style) and a separate remote kit (around $35). The higher end fans are not worth putting outdoors. The weather will beat up even the best fans in a couple of years
Buying a fan without the remote built in gives you more design choices for style of fan. Make sure remote kit you buy is designed for the same brand of fan you get.
The wall mount option is designed more for existing installations where you already have a wall switch but want to control fan and light separate. The hand held remote units control both fan and light no matter if you have it laying on a table or mounted with a wall bracket.
To answer your question about the wall mount being needed, it depends on the brand of fan, some of the higher end fans like "Casablanca Brand" use the wall mount remote as a master control and is required no matter what.
My opinion, get a regular fan like Hampton bay designed for outdoor use(around $100 depending on style) and a separate remote kit (around $35). The higher end fans are not worth putting outdoors. The weather will beat up even the best fans in a couple of years