Architecture - ICF Concrete Home/Block
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darqwolf
04-06-08, 07:38 PM
I am getting ready to start the process of building a home. I have went to the class on how to build ICF homes. I am wondering if block would be better/cheaper.
I live in a hurricane prone area and don't wish to lose everything again. If anyone has input it would be greatly appreciated.
I plan on doing all the electrical and painting and tile floor. I have enough in cash to build most of the home leaving about 25-50k to finance.
Thanks, Jim
I live in a hurricane prone area and don't wish to lose everything again. If anyone has input it would be greatly appreciated.
I plan on doing all the electrical and painting and tile floor. I have enough in cash to build most of the home leaving about 25-50k to finance.
Thanks, Jim
Concretemasonry
04-06-08, 09:04 PM
Both reinfprced block and reinforced concrete meet the strict requirements that have been established for some coastal areas of Florida. ICF is just another way of building a reinforced concrete wall.
If you want the super insulation ICFs are a great way to go. If you only need good thermal properties, block is the way to go.
ICFs are not for DIYers. Anyone can stack up foam Lego blocks. The critical areas are the openings, bracing of the walls and proper placement of the concrete. You will need a contractor that has experience with pumping concrete and doing it the correct process and doing it as slow as is required to prevent shifting, blow-outs and voids. A mistake is a very, very big mistake that can end up is scrapping the work and materials because concrete is not forgiving.
Block comstruction will require someone with the ability to layout, build square and plumb walls and pour grout. If you are in hurricane county (Florida, I assume) you will be able to find many contractors. If you are in MS or LA, it will be more difficult.
For good ICF information, Reward has the best technical, details and construction information. The masonry is really just straight forward reinforced masonry that has been around for a long time.
For specific information on "safe cells" look at the FEMA site (fema.org or fema.gov - I think).
If you want the super insulation ICFs are a great way to go. If you only need good thermal properties, block is the way to go.
ICFs are not for DIYers. Anyone can stack up foam Lego blocks. The critical areas are the openings, bracing of the walls and proper placement of the concrete. You will need a contractor that has experience with pumping concrete and doing it the correct process and doing it as slow as is required to prevent shifting, blow-outs and voids. A mistake is a very, very big mistake that can end up is scrapping the work and materials because concrete is not forgiving.
Block comstruction will require someone with the ability to layout, build square and plumb walls and pour grout. If you are in hurricane county (Florida, I assume) you will be able to find many contractors. If you are in MS or LA, it will be more difficult.
For good ICF information, Reward has the best technical, details and construction information. The masonry is really just straight forward reinforced masonry that has been around for a long time.
For specific information on "safe cells" look at the FEMA site (fema.org or fema.gov - I think).
darqwolf
04-06-08, 09:12 PM
I don't plan on doing the ICF, just the parts I listed. I went to the class to make sure I would know if they were doing things right. I will do what I know I can do.
Unfortunately I live in MS ... took around 15 foot surge where I lived inland about 2 miles. There are a couple of them here, friend just had one built where I used to live. I am building a bit north. I am getting killed for insurance for a mobile home, its got to go.
Unfortunately I live in MS ... took around 15 foot surge where I lived inland about 2 miles. There are a couple of them here, friend just had one built where I used to live. I am building a bit north. I am getting killed for insurance for a mobile home, its got to go.