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awake
04-04-08, 02:12 PM
ok ,there was a pigeon in my wifes hanging plant basket, under the eve of the house.its been nesting on 2 eggs for 2 weeks now.
my wife put some bread in the basket for the bird, the bird did come back , then the following week my wife did the same thing , now the moma bird is gone its been only 24 hours so far, should i wait longer for moma bird to come back to sit on them? or should i bring them indoors?

i told my wife, she shouldnt have ,but food in the basket, that birds are wild and can fend for themselfs. my wife is a caring pet/animal lover. thats the reason she done it.

so should a wait longer to see if bird come back to sit on them? if she dont come back what to do? the basket is only 6 feet from my front door btw.

my wife rased some baby squrriles before.


Pendragon
04-04-08, 03:32 PM
I hate to play devils advocate here, but pigeons (and squirrels) are rodents/pests. Saving them is not a good thing.

You wouldn't save a rat would you?

awake
04-04-08, 03:38 PM
moma and daddy bird still not back on nest there 2 white egg about 1.5 inch long.
i been googling on this subject. to find alots of anwsers.
im hoping the moma bird will come back to its nest .from what i read ,when people move the egg, the moma bird comes back looking for it , then if you put it back they dont want anything to do with the egg then , so im going to wait a couple of mpre days

it says they should hatch on 16 to 21 days i think , its been over 14 days now. the moma bird used to play broken wing, when wife would get close to the nest like watering the plants etc. we have not touched the eggs at all. there is a good sized nest that the eggs are on.


GregH
04-04-08, 03:59 PM
We enjoy birds a lot and seek them out to watch and photograph but have to agree that as much as it may pain you pigeons are a domestic bird that are not meant to be in the wild.
They carry disease to other birds and their large numbers in some areas cause them to die of starvation and abandonment as in your case.

If they come back I hope they give you enjoyment but if they don't I would not be too concerned.

If you like birds why do you not try to set up some bird houses that local birds can raise some young in.

Roughly where do you live and are you in a city?

Edit:
Hey!
I just came cross a post of yours about a Mockingbird driving you crazy!
Is this post a contradiction or what.

Why don't you see what it takes to attract Mockingbirds to a bird house?

awake
04-04-08, 04:40 PM
im in baton rouge louisiana, i think one of the parnet bird is on top my house, it had not gone in the nest , i can see it out my front window, i think its not going to sit on the egg anymore, cause my wife stuck her hand in it to got the bread out of it , when it was nesting on the egg, any noise ussally made the bird fly away, but always came back untill my wife stuck her hand inside the planter.

as far as the pigeons they dont brother me at all.
the mockingbird and the cardinals. thats another story.

Concretemasonry
04-04-08, 05:07 PM
Mosr birds do not want people bothering and upsetting them, even if the people can raise squirrels.

Have you ever though the parents know what is best and that they do not want any parental or even governmental interference?

If the chicks end up being habd fed, they will be worthless when they are on their own.

Keep your hands out of the bird's nest!!!

Shadeladie
04-04-08, 05:38 PM
You wouldn't save a rat would you?

Actually, pet rats make very good pets, kind of like dogs and don't bite like mice and hamsters. :D

As for the question, I have brought my share of birds and squirrels in to try and save, but I think I'd draw the line on eggs. If they haven't hatched, I'd just let them be.

awake
04-04-08, 05:53 PM
i did not bother them , wife did . she was trying to help the moma bird so she wouldnt have to fly out the nest all the time. i thought it was going to storm here, i was hoping, that way the moma bird, might come back to the nest for safe haven. cause its out of the rain. also i squrriel jump in the planter too, that might have upset the moma bird too. if my wife didnt .

im just going to tell her to leave them in there and see?
thats the only way. i belivie there ferlizide cause she was on them got 14 days plus. we dont know the ex. day she laid the first egg, but its been 14 days since. maybe she dont think there going to hatch so she leaft them?

when should i crack them open? if she dont return , and whats the longest they can survive with the moma sitting on them ?

she should have 'just' left them alone.

connie
04-05-08, 02:54 AM
So, let me see if I have this right...

You do not like Cardinals or Mockingbirds or snakes, but you do like pigeons..

I suspect "awake" is having a little fun with us...

Connie

Kobuchi
04-05-08, 04:30 AM
Was repairing eves once, exposed a nest, which spilled. I caught one egg before it tumbled off the roof. Held up to the sun, I perceived no embryo shadow in the glow of it. But the egg had a subtle living moisture like the "dry" end of a wine cork. There was no place left to put the egg, but my tool pouch.

Later, I heated a skillet and lightly scrambled the tidbit. Which I can't report as a delicacy. Smoky, vaguely stringy, very eggy. Iron aftertaste. I suppose some folks would like the flavour though.

Well, it's something to think about, or not.

awake
04-05-08, 06:07 PM
So, let me see if I have this right...

You do not like Cardinals or Mockingbirds or snakes, but you do like pigeons..

I suspect "awake" is having a little fun with us...

Connie
the 2 piegoen dont bother me. the moma bird as not been back. its been 2 days ? whats next?

graysilm
04-05-08, 07:48 PM
pigeons are nasty birds that aren't even native to the US. Do yourself and everyone else a favor. Throw those eggs in the trash and stop feeding pigeons

Newt
04-06-08, 01:47 AM
Sometimes people mistake pigeons for doves and vice versa. If the birds don't return in 2 days then all is lost. I would suggest you dispose of the eggs after that.

Please tell your wife not to disturb nesting birds. She can leave food nearby. Bread is really not good for birds as it contains salt and sugar or corn syrup. Get some bird seed and a feeder. For large birds like doves and pigeons, sprinkle some seed on the ground.

Go to google, click on 'Images' and search to see what a pigeon and a mourning dove looks like. I suspect you had a mourning dove.

Newt

awake
04-07-08, 01:32 PM
its been over 5 days now no signs of the moma or daddy bird. so dispose of them . they kind of sound like an owl? doves?

Pendragon
04-07-08, 06:14 PM
Dove, Pigeon.. same diff, as they are the same species. People usually call the smaller birds doves and the larger ones pigeons, but they are the same pest.

Newt
04-07-08, 08:28 PM
I realize that to many people, doves and pigeons are pests, but since we don't know where Awake lives or what species of bird this is, I would hesitate to call any animal a pest. When most folks in the US think of pigeons they think of the Rock Pigeon. This bird is not native to the US and is considered a pest by many, especially in cities where their populations are higher. Here's the Rock Pigeon aka Rock Dove.
http://www.camacdonald.com/birding/RockPigeon(GT).jpg
http://www.camacdonald.com/birding/RockDove(AP).jpg

I think this might be helpful from this site.
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/celebration/GettingStarted/photos-and-videos/Dunn%20et%20al%202006.pdf


Most of the pigeon species in cities, including Rock Doves (Columba livia), have relatively few negative impacts on native ecosystems. Rock Doves are nowan integral part of many urban ecosystems and together with European Starlings (Sturnus vulgaris), and Morning Doves (Zenaida macroura) constitute most of the diet of some native raptors now found in these ecosystems (e.g., Roth & Lima 2003).

Mourning and white-winged doves are native to North America.
http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/news/hunting/migratory_birds/doves

White winged dove:
http://fireflyforest.net/firefly/2007/03/10/white-winged-doves/

Mourning dove:
http://identify.whatbird.com/obj/163/overview/Mourning_Dove.aspx

Newt

awake
04-08-08, 07:50 AM
I realize that to many people, doves and pigeons are pests, but since we don't know where Awake lives or what species of bird this is, I would hesitate to call any animal a pest. When most folks in the US think of pigeons they think of the Rock Pigeon. This bird is not native to the US and is considered a pest by many, especially in cities where their populations are higher. Here's the Rock Pigeon aka Rock Dove.
http://www.camacdonald.com/birding/RockPigeon(GT).jpg
http://www.camacdonald.com/birding/RockDove(AP).jpg

I think this might be helpful from this site.
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/celebration/GettingStarted/photos-and-videos/Dunn%20et%20al%202006.pdf




Mourning and white-winged doves are native to North America.
http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/news/hunting/migratory_birds/doves

White winged dove:
http://fireflyforest.net/firefly/2007/03/10/white-winged-doves/

Mourning dove:
http://identify.whatbird.com/obj/163/overview/Mourning_Dove.aspx

Newtthanks for the links i think its a morning dove,

im in baton rouge louisiana. way down south,

moma bird is gone, eggs still there.

my mockingbird is back mocking me ,doves arent that loud so there dont bother me as much,