Designing Kitchens and Bathrooms - Kitchen Renovation Help
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rhchi
03-21-08, 11:05 AM
I am currently in the planning phase of renovating my kitchen and am looking for help as I am planning. I am not going to be doing much if any of the work myself, but am currently getting quotes from contractors or laborers for the different pieces.
Smallish kitchen is about 11'X6' - cabinets will remain and do not need to be refinished.
I will be
-Removing ceramic time and replacing with hardwood (completing my entire condo with same hardwood at same time)
-Replacing existing counters with granite (includes new sink/fixtures)
-New appliances
-Replacing dates ceramic backsplash
Basically as i'm getting quotes I can't figure out what order I should complete each step. Should I install the floor first, then counters, backsplash, and finally new appliances?
Please offer some advice, I don't want any of the new material to get scratched up while the others are being installed. Also I don't know at this point if the new floors will be installed over the existing floors, so that is key (reduce appliance heights.).
Thanks in advance for any advice, So many moving pieces are a bit confusing!
Smallish kitchen is about 11'X6' - cabinets will remain and do not need to be refinished.
I will be
-Removing ceramic time and replacing with hardwood (completing my entire condo with same hardwood at same time)
-Replacing existing counters with granite (includes new sink/fixtures)
-New appliances
-Replacing dates ceramic backsplash
Basically as i'm getting quotes I can't figure out what order I should complete each step. Should I install the floor first, then counters, backsplash, and finally new appliances?
Please offer some advice, I don't want any of the new material to get scratched up while the others are being installed. Also I don't know at this point if the new floors will be installed over the existing floors, so that is key (reduce appliance heights.).
Thanks in advance for any advice, So many moving pieces are a bit confusing!
connie
03-21-08, 11:25 AM
Hi,rh.....
I'd do the floors last, as you don't want to worry about them getting scratched up from other workmen and from moving appliances.
I doubt there will be a height difference to worry about ...the tile is 1/4 inch and it's attached to a subfloor
If I were you, though, I'd try to figure a way to get a little more space in that kitchen while you're remodeling. Most folks have closets bigger than your kitchen:)
I'd do the floors last, as you don't want to worry about them getting scratched up from other workmen and from moving appliances.
I doubt there will be a height difference to worry about ...the tile is 1/4 inch and it's attached to a subfloor
If I were you, though, I'd try to figure a way to get a little more space in that kitchen while you're remodeling. Most folks have closets bigger than your kitchen:)
rhchi
03-21-08, 11:46 AM
Thanks Connie, very helpful,
My orginal though was floor last for that very reason. My first flooring quote suggested the opposite, with the reasoning being that he planned to place the new floor over my existing floor raising the level by 1-1.5" (with a new subfloor over). I'm having a few more people look at as I don't know if this is the best option (and $ was out of control).
My worry is that if I put the floor in last and the height raises even a small amount then I will not be able to remove the appliances late if needed?
My orginal though was floor last for that very reason. My first flooring quote suggested the opposite, with the reasoning being that he planned to place the new floor over my existing floor raising the level by 1-1.5" (with a new subfloor over). I'm having a few more people look at as I don't know if this is the best option (and $ was out of control).
My worry is that if I put the floor in last and the height raises even a small amount then I will not be able to remove the appliances late if needed?
connie
03-21-08, 11:50 AM
The new floor should go under the appliances, but not the cabinets.
rhchi
03-21-08, 11:57 AM
Sorry if this is a dumb question -- but if I got my new appliances installed, then the floor in later (probably 2-8 weeks) then I would have to remove the new appliances and have reinstalled right?
connie
03-21-08, 12:26 PM
There are no dumb questions:) Yes, you are correct. Is it possible, timing-wise, that you could remove the old appliances the day the new floor goes in and have the new ones delivered the following day?
You'll need to warn the appliance store that you just had new floors installed and won't tolerate any big, black dolly marks :)
I always buy a throwaway carpet runner- you can get them in the paint department for about $10.00. They're a white paper with plastic on the back, and tape them down. Something about white makes everyone be careful! You could just use cardboard, as well.
You'll need to warn the appliance store that you just had new floors installed and won't tolerate any big, black dolly marks :)
I always buy a throwaway carpet runner- you can get them in the paint department for about $10.00. They're a white paper with plastic on the back, and tape them down. Something about white makes everyone be careful! You could just use cardboard, as well.
HeresJohnny
03-21-08, 01:55 PM
My worry is that if I put the floor in last and the height raises even a small amount then I will not be able to remove the appliances late if needed?
What is under the ceramic tile that you will be removing a wood framed floor or concrete floor?:)
What is under the ceramic tile that you will be removing a wood framed floor or concrete floor?:)
rhchi
03-21-08, 02:24 PM
Older framed food floor. I'm on the 3rd floor of an older condo building, so i don't know for sure the condition below the tile. The entire unit floor has some uneven spots which will be a challenge in itself....