Electronic Alarms and Home Security Devices - DSC: enrolling devices on RFK5501 help me

Hi,

I have a DSC 1616 with a RFK5501 keypad/receiver. I'm a newbie to alarms so I'm slugging my way though this install.
I was able to enroll the keypad into Partition 1, Slot 1
I followed the device enrolling steps provided on the keypad install sheet {804} zone+device serial number. When I run a placement test {904}+zone I get a blinking red "armed" light.Which I understand is a detected but un-enrolled device.Additionally, I don't understand how to set zone definitions or attributes on the wireless zones 1-32 {ie 01-delay 04-interior} is there section number to program these zones? Like section 001 defines the first eight hardware zones.
Is there a DSC install for Dummies thread on DIY?
Thanks in advance for any advice that gets thrown my way.

Cheers, Rob

when you went into section 804, what zones did you assign for your wireless devices. how many wireless devices do you have? do you have hardwired zones as well? whatever zones you assigned these to, go into section 001 for zones 1-16. giving each zone a definition. then go into attributes, and turn on number 8 for wireless zones.

DSC manuals have always been notoriously unreadable, these most recent versions are worse yet...

Don't get zone type setting and the attribute locations mixed up. Generally, the only thing you need to change in the zone attribute location is option 8 to activate the wireless on a zone.

001 doesn't just set definitions for the first 8 _hardwire_ zones, it sets the first 8 zones period. Any or all can be wired or wireless.

Most of what has been posted for any of the older versions of the power series panels (PC 1555, PC 5010, etc) applies to these newer ones. They didn't really change much in the programming, they just added new features.

Hi, Folks

Thanks for the help I'm a little closer now. I have enrolled the devices and set definitions and attributes. I found a cheat sheet that said to use zones 9-16 and assign them to Part 1.
With DSC 1616 only having 6 hardwire zones does move the first zone from section 002 down from zone9 to zone7?
I nulled 00 zones1-6 as I do not have any hardwire devices yet.
Do I null 00 zone7 and 8 as if they exist?
It seemed to check out as the placement test [904] worked nicely. My problem now is if I open the front door with the alarm ready it go off. The interior horn seem to have a cadence to it. Three short blasts. It that a fault code?
I understand there is a distinct fire sound. Did I attrib. my door as a fire device? I had stop for day as it was a little late
to be setting off that alarm. My neighbors won't watch out for me if I keep this up.

Thanks,Rob

Yes, you null all unused zone numbers. 7 and 8 may have been nulled by default.

Actually, you can enroll wireless devices to _any_ zone number, but what you did was just fine.

For your other problem, I suspect that you assigned the wrong zone type to your door transmitter.

what zone did you assign for the door issue? it should be 01 for delay or 03 for instant, whichever you want. good luck

Thanks for the help. I have the system working now. I had to mindfully reset the zone definitions and then everything worked quite nicely. I think I had a typo on one of the zones.
Thanks to your help on this forum, and a cheatsheet I found at a vendor site. I think I'm getting a feel for the DSC nomenclature and conventions. I understand an industry being esoteric and exclusive. In this situation I have the reference manual and I was still lost. I have to agree with MrRonFL that these docs are not very helpful. You guys are tops. I hope I can return the favor sometime.

Cheers, Rob

Hi,

I have a DSC 1616 with a RFK5501 keypad/receiver. I'm a newbie to alarms so I need help in adding one wireless door senor. Below is my current setup which are all hardwired. This wireless device is for a garage entry door so I will need to have a delay on it. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I tried *8 5555, 804, zone 1, 203*1*5*6 ## to no avail.



Zone 1

Front Door
Upstairs Windows(1st and 2nd)

Zone 2
Laundry Room Window
Office Window
Front Bedroom Window
Front Bathroom Window
2nd Bedroom Window
Garage Window

Zone 3
Dining Room Windows
Kitchen Eating Area
Living Room Sliding Door


Zone 4
Master Bed French Doors
Master Bath


Zone 5
Carbon Monoxide


Zone 6
Living Room Motion

Hi,

I have a DSC 1616 with a RFK5501 keypad/receiver. I'm a newbie to alarms so I need help in adding one wireless door senor. Below is my current setup which are all hardwired. This wireless device is for a garage entry door so I will need to have a delay on it. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I tried *8 5555, 804, zone 1, 203*1*5*6 ## to no avail.



Zone 1

Front Door
Upstairs Windows(1st and 2nd)

Zone 2
Laundry Room Window
Office Window
Front Bedroom Window
Front Bathroom Window
2nd Bedroom Window
Garage Window

Zone 3
Dining Room Windows
Kitchen Eating Area
Living Room Sliding Door


Zone 4
Master Bed French Doors
Master Bath


Zone 5
Carbon Monoxide


Zone 6
Living Room Motion

First, are you verified that your installer code is still the factory default? Keying in 5555 doesn't do you any good if the code's been changed.

With wireless zones you don't assign them to another occupied zone. Since you are using 6 zones, your new wireless zone has to be zone 7.

You will need turn on the wireless attribute (8) in location 107, and set the zone type in location 001. You will also have to turn on attribute 7 in location 202 to activate this unused zone number.

Sir,
Thanks for taking your time to help, as you can see from the questions below; I’m very new to this process. Yes, the installer code is still the factory default.

Is there a certain sequence or order that I must follow?

How do I set the wireless attribute (8) in location 107?

How do I set the zone type in location 001?

How do I turn on attribute 7 in location 202?

Thanks

First, read the section of your installer manual titled "How to Program". You need to understand the programming interface or you will get really lost. What you have to keep in mind is that the keypad you have is really a gussied up version of the standard LED keypad interface. The row of numbers at the top of the display takes the place of the LEDs that the instructions refer to.

That said:
*8 [installer code]
001 01 03 03 03 13 05 01 #
202 Turn on attribute 7 (press the 7 key toggle the attribute on)#
107 Turn on attribute 8 (as above, press the 8 key; in both cases you will see the corresponding digit turn on in the zone display at the top of the LCD display)

You seem to have the basic concept of how to enter the serial number, you just have to do it for zone 7 instead of zone 1.

No, the order really doesn't really matter, you just have to do all of the steps.

Sir,

I followed the instruction to a tee.

The last step I did was to enroll the wireless device by *8 5555 804 07 203*1*5*6. I get an open blinking message on 7
and the trouble key is amber. When specifing zone 7 do I imput 07 or 107 ?

Thanks

Just 07, 107 is the location number for attribute modification for zone 7.

If the zone is showing open, do you have the magnet in position and the battery cover on?

Sir,

the magnet is in position and the battery cover is on. I might have to buy another wireless device. Any thought ?

You say it is showing trouble. What comes up when you press *2?

Sir

the number 5 shows up and the trouble light blinks

That's zone fault (see the trouble appendix at the back of the manual). I have a suspicion that you have not entered the serial number you _think_ you entered.

You wrote: "203*1*5*6"

That would be 203A5F. Is that the same number on the device label?

Sir,

The ESN number listed and labled on the wireless device is
205A5F however on the other side of the device there is also a another number which is 19JL07. Please advise.

205A5F is the ESN. (You cannot generate that other number with HEX coding).

If you were keying in the number you kept quoting in your posts, then you were telling the system to look for the wrong transmitter.

Sir,

The correct ESN # is 203*1*5*6. I just mistype the number in my last post. I have tested the battery and that seem to be fine. Is there a test to see if the system is picking up the wireless device?

The test is when you move the magnet away and the zone opens and closes without a zone trouble.

Clearly you have missed a step somewhere in here, or you have added a step you didn't need. It's really hard, based on your second-hand info to tell which.

My advice is to default the panel, default the keypad, and default the receiver (these are 3 separate steps) and start over.