Designing Kitchens and Bathrooms - Bonding handrails in whirlpool? Line of sight shutoff?

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braindonor
03-11-08, 04:30 PM
Do I do it? I am replacing a 5 ft steel tub with a fiberglass 6 ft whirlpool w/heater. Have a 30 220 amp gfi breaker to run this outfit. I plan to bond the faucets and handles via the exiting copper piping (the whirlpool has bonding screws available). I will be fastening two handrails after the tile is set. Do I bond these as well and how? I can imagine bonding a plate on top of the nailer or stud that would then be in contact with the handrail when screwed to.

Also, I guess a line of sight shutoff is required. I would like to place this inside the inspection panel at the business end of the tub. Is this ok? Thanks for listening to my first post.


Bud Cline
03-11-08, 04:42 PM
You desperately need an electrician AND a plumber.

You have a 30 amp 220 volt system not a 220 amp system. GFCI's can be tricky creatures if you don't understand them and I'm thinking you don't.

I don't understand the "bonding the faucets and handles" those are terms I have never heard used relating to this type of plumbing. Not in this country anyway!:)

The handrails need to be prepared for by installing "blocking" in between the studs before the wall covering is installed.

This "line of site" shutoff is a code requirement but it cannot be accessible from the pool, I'm thinking that's what you want to do. Also any electrical inspection panel can not be in close proximity to the pool either as far as I know.

I'm thinking from your terminology, you don't have the necessary understanding to do this work yourself and do it properly and safely.

I'd sure hate to see you end up crispy critters.:wall:

braindonor
03-11-08, 05:07 PM
Well dyslexia might be a problem, but not understanding. It is a 220 volt 30 amp Gfi breaker. The GFI pigtail is connected to neutral in the box, the black and red to the hot terminals of the breaker and then to the tub electrical power, and a green wire runs from the ground of the tub to the ground of the box. There is not a 120 volt application in the tub so a white common is not needed.

I am bonding the faucets and spouts because there may be plastic piping in the supply, eliminating a proper ground. I am wondering if the handrails should be too. I can imagine a once in a million leak from shower supply to handrail attachment to motor/heater power, so that is why I am asking. "Nailers", in my part of the world, are used like "blocking".

It sounds like my line of sight disconnect would work in the spot I like.

Thanks for the answer, and sorry for the confusion. Great site btw.