Designing Kitchens and Bathrooms - bath tub / tile & mold ?

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newtofta
01-27-08, 02:07 PM
a little more than a year ago,i replaced a bath tub-installed fiber glass insulation in the outside wall covered it with 30lb felt-then hardi backer-used modified thinset/6" square tiles on the wall -w/ 1/16" grout lines & 1/8" color match grout at the tub/wall joint.
now at the "T" where the grout lines meet the caulk,for the 4-5 tiles closest to the shower end(wetest) on the outside wall, it apears tto be starting MOLD to come through from the back/ dark / black looking discoloring.

any ideas / cause/cure
thanks-mike


HotinOKC
01-27-08, 07:11 PM
Did you leave the hardibacker about 1/2 - 1" off the tub lip? If not, the water maybe whicking up...

The grout still look good? No gaps, cracks, or anything?

newtofta
01-28-08, 07:47 PM
all "looks" good except hhe discoloration that is starting.
an other member suggested,may be a proplwm in the fact that i 'did not' seal the grout lines-i guess alowing moisture to weep through the grout it self?
i was under the impression that the poly blend type grout did not need to be sealed?
any reply will be apretiated!

thanks mike

:confused:


HotinOKC
01-28-08, 07:50 PM
:eek: The grout definetly needs to be sealed, a few times. Don't use that shower for a few days and then seal. Use a good quality sealer, and not the cheap $10 stuff.

newtofta
01-29-08, 08:21 PM
thanks for info!
mike

Bud Cline
01-30-08, 09:49 AM
Polyblend DOES NOT require a sealer. PolyBlend contains additives that preclude the need of a sealer.

Today's sealers are there to help to clean the grout when it becomes necessary and are not considered a waterproofing material. IN FACT - Today's sealers are "vapor-transmissive" to let moisture "out" so they could certainly also allow moisture "in".:)

Sealing PolyBlend isn't required but it also can't hurt if you understand why it is you are doing it and understand that sealers in most cases are a profit-center for retailers and so everyone says "SEAL IT"!

The problem here is a simple and (all-to-frequent) "caulk failure". Yes the moisture is wicking down the grout and getting behind the caulk but the caulk is also experiencing a cohesive failure and has separated from the wall enough to allow the growth of mold. Remove the caulk and do it again.:)

newtofta
01-30-08, 09:18 PM
:confused: once again, thanks for the info!
question? thereis a void,i am guessing, about the size of - 1/2"x1/2"- behind the tile where the backer board stops-above the tub.should i try to add some of the soft set expanding foam spray in sealer (great stuff)? then re caulk the tille/tub joint?

mike

HotinOKC
01-30-08, 09:29 PM
I've never heard someone recommend not sealing grout. :rolleyes:

If you want more mold and a hard to clean grout, then don't seal it.

Custom Building Products actually recommends sealing the grout to prevent all this.

newtofta
01-30-08, 09:34 PM
:confused:
o/k, thanks again for info & fast reply!

mike