Lighting, Light Fixtures, Ceiling and Exhaust Fans - New Switch and Fan Connection
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JAA123
01-16-08, 12:31 PM
I currently have a switch that controls ceiling lighting in my room. Now I want to add a ceiling fan and would like to add new switch next to existing switch to control it.
Can someone please advise how should the wiring be done?
Can someone please advise how should the wiring be done?
racraft
01-16-08, 01:04 PM
The wiring should be done properly. We cannot tell you anything more until and unless you tell us what the existing wiring is and what you want as the end result.
Do you want a duplex switch? Do you want two switches side by side?
The general directions are as follows:
Replace the ceiling box with a fan rated box. Replace the existing cable with a three wire cable. Wire properly, based on the existing wiring.
Do you want a duplex switch? Do you want two switches side by side?
The general directions are as follows:
Replace the ceiling box with a fan rated box. Replace the existing cable with a three wire cable. Wire properly, based on the existing wiring.
JAA123
01-16-08, 01:23 PM
I can replace single switch with Duplex.
I do not have any wiring for Fan. This will be totally new wiring (no ceiling box). I want to run wire from switch to Fan.
I do not have any wiring for Fan. This will be totally new wiring (no ceiling box). I want to run wire from switch to Fan.
racraft
01-16-08, 01:33 PM
Your posts contradict each other.
Which is it? Do you have a ceiling light or not?
"This will be totally new wiring (no ceiling box)."
OR
"I currently have a switch that controls ceiling lighting in my room."
Regardless of which of those is correct, we still need to know the wiring of the switch and whatever it controls. AND the we need to know what should happen to what it presently controls.
Which is it? Do you have a ceiling light or not?
"This will be totally new wiring (no ceiling box)."
OR
"I currently have a switch that controls ceiling lighting in my room."
Regardless of which of those is correct, we still need to know the wiring of the switch and whatever it controls. AND the we need to know what should happen to what it presently controls.
JAA123
01-16-08, 01:46 PM
I am sorry.
To make it less confusing. Just assume I have no wiring on the ceiling. I have only one switch which controls the outlet.
How I can add a new switch, run a wire from it, create ceiling point to hang fan.
In Earlier posting -- I was trying to explain the following setup:
Ceiling
--------------------
|-------------------|
|--O-----------O---|
|---------D-------- |
|-------------------|
|--O-----------O---|
|-------------------|
--------------------
Wall
|
|
|
{| <---- Switch which controls Recess lights (O) in the Ceiling.
|
{| <---- Want this New Switch which control the Fan (D).
|
NOTE: Both switches can be together in duplex.
Question is:
How to connect wire from existing switch to new.
How to run wire from New switch to Fan (D).
I hope above diagram will help. If not then ignore and please answer assuming nothing in place.
To make it less confusing. Just assume I have no wiring on the ceiling. I have only one switch which controls the outlet.
How I can add a new switch, run a wire from it, create ceiling point to hang fan.
In Earlier posting -- I was trying to explain the following setup:
Ceiling
--------------------
|-------------------|
|--O-----------O---|
|---------D-------- |
|-------------------|
|--O-----------O---|
|-------------------|
--------------------
Wall
|
|
|
{| <---- Switch which controls Recess lights (O) in the Ceiling.
|
{| <---- Want this New Switch which control the Fan (D).
|
NOTE: Both switches can be together in duplex.
Question is:
How to connect wire from existing switch to new.
How to run wire from New switch to Fan (D).
I hope above diagram will help. If not then ignore and please answer assuming nothing in place.
racraft
01-16-08, 01:53 PM
Where do you intend to get power from?
JAA123
01-16-08, 02:05 PM
This is where I am confuse. Can I get it from the switch?
Did the rough diagram help?
Did the rough diagram help?
racraft
01-16-08, 02:32 PM
I don;t know if you can get power from the switch. In my first response I asked you to tell me the wiring. As soon as you do that I will tell you if you can get power at the switch.
JAA123
01-16-08, 02:41 PM
Currently; we have multiple outlets in the room. One of the outlet is controlled with a switch next to the door.
There is no other wiring in the room. Nothing in the Ceiling.
There is no other wiring in the room. Nothing in the Ceiling.
racraft
01-16-08, 02:51 PM
Why are you making this difficult? I need to know what wires exist in the switch box and how those wires re connected.
JAA123
01-17-08, 09:57 AM
Sorry. It took me this long to provide requested information. I was not home.
I opened the existing switch box and found that there there three cables in the box.
Black wires of two cables are capped together before it is connected to switch (Bottom side). Another black wire from the third cable is connected to top side of the switch which; I believe; is going to the outlet which it controls.
There are two golden screws on the right side of the switch -- both are unused.
I opened the existing switch box and found that there there three cables in the box.
Black wires of two cables are capped together before it is connected to switch (Bottom side). Another black wire from the third cable is connected to top side of the switch which; I believe; is going to the outlet which it controls.
There are two golden screws on the right side of the switch -- both are unused.
JAA123
01-18-08, 08:42 AM
Why are you making this difficult? I need to know what wires exist in the switch box and how those wires re connected.
Did you check my last posting? Did I provide you requested information.
Appreciate your assistance.
Did you check my last posting? Did I provide you requested information.
Appreciate your assistance.
racraft
01-18-08, 09:08 AM
What other wires are in the switch box? I can't work on partial information.
JAA123
01-18-08, 09:33 AM
Sorry. It took me this long to provide requested information. I was not home.
I opened the existing switch box and found that there are three cables in the box.
Black wires of two cables are capped together before it is connected to switch (Bottom side). Another black wire from the third cable is connected to top side of the switch which; I believe; is going to the outlet which it controls.
There are two golden screws on the right side of the switch -- both are unused.
There is no other wires in the switch other than listed my earlier post.
I opened the existing switch box and found that there are three cables in the box.
Black wires of two cables are capped together before it is connected to switch (Bottom side). Another black wire from the third cable is connected to top side of the switch which; I believe; is going to the outlet which it controls.
There are two golden screws on the right side of the switch -- both are unused.
There is no other wires in the switch other than listed my earlier post.
racraft
01-18-08, 09:37 AM
No, I don't think you are being accurate. I am guessing there are white wires, possibly a red wire, and maybe some bare or green ground wires.
JAA123
01-18-08, 09:42 AM
Sorry. Yes there are white and bare wires in the box.
No Red or Green wires.
No Red or Green wires.
racraft
01-18-08, 09:48 AM
How are those wires connected?
JAA123
01-18-08, 01:47 PM
All three white wires are connected through cap.
4 bare wires (one each from three cables and one from switch) are connect together.
4 bare wires (one each from three cables and one from switch) are connect together.
racraft
01-18-08, 03:04 PM
Yes, you have power in the box. So you can run a new cable from the box to wherever you want to put this fan and light.
JAA123
01-18-08, 03:59 PM
Thank you for your help and patience with me.
Is there a special type of cable which I should run for fan+light? I think I read somewhere in this forum that it should have three wires + earth.
Is there a special type of cable which I should run for fan+light? I think I read somewhere in this forum that it should have three wires + earth.
racraft
01-18-08, 04:07 PM
Please buy and read the book Wiring Simplified. Then buy and read two other books on home wiring. At this point in time you lack the knowledge to do this project. This forum (or any other forum) cannot tell you everything. You need to do some reading and learning on your own.
You need three wires plus ground if you want the fan and the light to be separately controlled. If you want them to be controlled together then you only need two conductors plus ground. I recommend three conductors plus ground regardless, to allow for future expansion.
You need three wires plus ground if you want the fan and the light to be separately controlled. If you want them to be controlled together then you only need two conductors plus ground. I recommend three conductors plus ground regardless, to allow for future expansion.
JAA123
01-18-08, 08:00 PM
Thanks.
I did order "The Complete Guide to Home Wiring: a Comprehensive Manual, From Basic Repairs to Advanced Projects " couple of days ago and will read before I start this project.
I appreciate your assistance and guidance.
I did order "The Complete Guide to Home Wiring: a Comprehensive Manual, From Basic Repairs to Advanced Projects " couple of days ago and will read before I start this project.
I appreciate your assistance and guidance.