Electronic Alarms and Home Security Devices - DSC632 Fire Zone disabled?

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ancient1
12-31-07, 09:08 AM
Alarm systems newbie buys house with existing DSC632 5508 keypads. The system was set up by the monitoring company. However, the 2 patio doors were set up without entry delay and I wanted to change this.

Got install manual and read this very helpful forum. My six zones are entry doors (zones 1-4), motion detectors (5-6). So I did: *8 5555 001 01 01 01 01 06 06 00 00 ## and it seems to have successfully made the patio doors have an entry delay.

Now my question: by disabling zones 7-8, did I disable my heat/smoke detectors??? The manual is not clear to me whether the fire detection is connected to one of the remaining zones.

Thanks.
The Ancient1


kcxj
12-31-07, 10:56 AM
In the panel, do you have anything connected to the terninals for zone 7 and 8?

MrRonFL
12-31-07, 11:22 AM
Sigh...(One of my pet peeves is installers that don't mark the zones on the keypad zone label or at least tuck a piece of paper inside the system can).

If you have system smokes (Look at your smoke detectors, they may simply be hardwired single station AC/DC interconnect smokes), the two wire variety is run through the PGM terminals on a DSC panel. The _4-wire_ models can be connected to any one of the 6 hardwired inputs. If you have 6 hardwired security zones on a 632/PC1555, then either you have no system smokes, or they are two wire.


ancient1
12-31-07, 01:50 PM
In the panel, do you have anything connected to the terninals for zone 7 and 8?

kcxj, there are only 6 hardwired zone terminals on the control board that I can see.

ancient1
12-31-07, 02:03 PM
If you have 6 hardwired security zones on a 632/PC1555, then either you have no system smokes, or they are two wire.

I have one fire detector on each of 3 floors - 2 smoke detectors, and I think the one near the kitchen is a heat detector, not smoke.

The PC1555MX board has only 6 hardwired zones that I see.

Anyway, since I have 4 entry doors and 2 motion detectors, each respectively wired to zones 1-6, what zone, if any, points to the smokes? I see the PGM2 terminal has a wire to it, so I am guessing that is the smokes.

So back to my original question, when I put 00-00 for zones 7-8 during programming, what was I disabling? I see only 6 zones, but the programming instructions call for 8.

Also, can I run a test with central monitoring to see if the smokes are enabled?

Thanks again.
Ancient1

MrRonFL
12-31-07, 04:15 PM
The if they are system smokes, then they would be connected to the PGM terminal.

Though the system only has 6 hardwire inputs, it supports up to 32 zones from expanders, and the zones are grouped in sets of 8 (which is why you null out the last two zones). The PGM used as a fire input is above and beyond the 32 normal zones the system supports. Unless you fully defaulted the system, the settings for PGM 2 will not have changed.

ancient1
01-01-08, 04:54 PM
Thankx MrRonFL. One more thing: i don't really understand the difference between setting the motions to 05 or 06. Manual not clear to me. Can you explain?

MrRonFL
01-01-08, 07:12 PM
05 is "interior stay/away" and will automatically bypass if you arm the system in stay mode, or if you arm the system and do not open and close an entry/exit zone (it will automatically jump to stay arming).

06 is "delay stay/away" and acts like an entry/exit zone that bypasses the same way. You only use that one when there is no physical entry/exit door (an all motion detector system, for example, which is normally _not_ a good idea)

ancient1
01-02-08, 10:17 AM
Got it. Thanks again.

dclegg12
01-03-08, 09:48 PM
i know everyone may be different but the only time i use 06 for a motion is when the motion has a chance of catching the homeowner coming in the entry/exit door

MrRonFL
01-04-08, 05:35 AM
You don't need to do that. The standard interior stay/away is a "follower" zone that automatically delays with whatever entry/exit zone that is currently timing out.

The devil is in the details of the zone type description.