Walls and Ceilings - Popcorn ceilling removed , primed and painted. Paint peeling now, how to fix it
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LiveinSeattle
12-05-07, 01:09 PM
Hello, all
Thanks for the reply about removing wallpaper. We are having another problems. We removed popcorn ceiling in all rooms. We primed the ceiling using regular primer from paint store (recommended by store sales person). then we painted it. Now the paint peeling on the edges when we taped (to paint walls). I realized that we made mistake to use regular primer at the first place. My question is could we re-apply a good primer to the ceiling and re-paint? would that help to bond the new paint to the ceiling. I really don't want to scrape all ceilings (about 1500 square feet).
I also noticed some un evenness on the ceiling when the dry wall boards joint together. since the ceiling was covered by popcorn before, it was not so noticeable. Right now, by looking at ceiling, I can count how many beams in each room.
What I can do to disguise this? Can I apply texture to the painted ceiling?
Thank you all.
JK
Thanks for the reply about removing wallpaper. We are having another problems. We removed popcorn ceiling in all rooms. We primed the ceiling using regular primer from paint store (recommended by store sales person). then we painted it. Now the paint peeling on the edges when we taped (to paint walls). I realized that we made mistake to use regular primer at the first place. My question is could we re-apply a good primer to the ceiling and re-paint? would that help to bond the new paint to the ceiling. I really don't want to scrape all ceilings (about 1500 square feet).
I also noticed some un evenness on the ceiling when the dry wall boards joint together. since the ceiling was covered by popcorn before, it was not so noticeable. Right now, by looking at ceiling, I can count how many beams in each room.
What I can do to disguise this? Can I apply texture to the painted ceiling?
Thank you all.
JK
marksr
12-05-07, 01:50 PM
The peeling problem is because of the tape not the primer. It is best to learn to paint neatly without relying on tape. You should be able to sand the edge of the peeling paint, spackle and paint.
Usually whenver you remove a popcorn texture it is best to skim coat the ceiling. The main reason texture is used is to cut down on the finishing costs. The heavier the texture the more it will conceal. There are no issues with texturing over flat paint.
It would take a lot of mud to hide the rafters. Sounds like 1/2 drywall was used and it should have been 5/8" Texture would be your best bet - maybe a stomp texture.
Usually whenver you remove a popcorn texture it is best to skim coat the ceiling. The main reason texture is used is to cut down on the finishing costs. The heavier the texture the more it will conceal. There are no issues with texturing over flat paint.
It would take a lot of mud to hide the rafters. Sounds like 1/2 drywall was used and it should have been 5/8" Texture would be your best bet - maybe a stomp texture.
LiveinSeattle
12-05-07, 02:30 PM
Thank you very much, Mark
My husband likes smooth ceiling so, I may have to live with it. I wonder if I can apply the skim coat on top of paint to smooth out of all joints?
JK
My husband likes smooth ceiling so, I may have to live with it. I wonder if I can apply the skim coat on top of paint to smooth out of all joints?
JK
marksr
12-05-07, 04:29 PM
Yes you can skim coat over the paint. Thin your joint compound slightly so it applies easier. You don't have to do the whole ceiling at one time, you can do a section at a time as you have the time and energy :)
MudSlinger
12-08-07, 08:06 PM
If the room has a Southern exposure with a window, and you live in the Northern Hemisphere, it will be difficult to hide the cieling if it is big.
Butt joints usually always show, as the compound is not flush with the ceiling surface. Depending on how the rock was hung, the joints could be in good, or bad locations.
As a general rule, the less sheen the paint has, the more easily it will hide surface imperfections. Color also matters.
Texture is o.k. in some areas, although any ceiling, in any house, where I live, is an instant assumption of water damage. Some people still do it because they like the look, but it is looked at as a "cheap way out" for bad craftsmanship, or a "quick fix" for damage. Other areas of the country texture is considered "extra nice".
Skimming is a nice thought, although it will take you quite a bit of work to level the areas. Before I underwent that, I would also evaluate sheetrocking over what is there, with 54 wide sheets that were as long as I could fit in order to minimize the butt joints, and then have a drywaller hang them by screwing in the middle of the sheet first, and then working outward lengthwise. (That reduces "bowing")
I hope this helps
MS
Butt joints usually always show, as the compound is not flush with the ceiling surface. Depending on how the rock was hung, the joints could be in good, or bad locations.
As a general rule, the less sheen the paint has, the more easily it will hide surface imperfections. Color also matters.
Texture is o.k. in some areas, although any ceiling, in any house, where I live, is an instant assumption of water damage. Some people still do it because they like the look, but it is looked at as a "cheap way out" for bad craftsmanship, or a "quick fix" for damage. Other areas of the country texture is considered "extra nice".
Skimming is a nice thought, although it will take you quite a bit of work to level the areas. Before I underwent that, I would also evaluate sheetrocking over what is there, with 54 wide sheets that were as long as I could fit in order to minimize the butt joints, and then have a drywaller hang them by screwing in the middle of the sheet first, and then working outward lengthwise. (That reduces "bowing")
I hope this helps
MS