Designing Kitchens and Bathrooms - Solid slab of tile for heatproof shelf
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Borad
12-03-07, 08:14 PM
I replaced a 30 year old oven that had a pot cabinet with a new, smaller oven. Now there's a 10" space to the right. I put a garbage can in the space toward the front and now I want to hang a corner-shelf on the wall at the back. The sides of the shelf would be about 10" - 12". I'd like for it to be able to hold a hot pot and I want it to be white.
I couldn't find a white, enamel coated, hanging, wire, corner shelf. A wire cooling rack on a painted wooden shelf is one option if I put short walls on the shelf or fasten the rack so it doesn't fall. I also considered a silicone mat which would be slip resistant but I'm not sure whether the paint on the shelf would be damaged when I put a hot pot on the mat. I could also put tile on a wooden shelf and hope it doesn't warp. but my current idea is to cut a single 12" x 12" slab of tile, screw brackets to the wall, then attach the shelf to the brackets with silicone adhesive. What tile would be heat resistant and thick enough? How would you do it? Should I forget about the heat resistance and put a vase or something on the shelf?
I couldn't find a white, enamel coated, hanging, wire, corner shelf. A wire cooling rack on a painted wooden shelf is one option if I put short walls on the shelf or fasten the rack so it doesn't fall. I also considered a silicone mat which would be slip resistant but I'm not sure whether the paint on the shelf would be damaged when I put a hot pot on the mat. I could also put tile on a wooden shelf and hope it doesn't warp. but my current idea is to cut a single 12" x 12" slab of tile, screw brackets to the wall, then attach the shelf to the brackets with silicone adhesive. What tile would be heat resistant and thick enough? How would you do it? Should I forget about the heat resistance and put a vase or something on the shelf?
caleyg
12-04-07, 09:01 AM
I'm having a hard time picturing it. I think I'd go more for a counter height "table" with maybe a marble top to fill the whole space.
Borad
12-04-07, 01:28 PM
I'd like that but that would be more expensive and the linoleum is curling up so I can't lay anything flush against the wall if it sits on the floor.
This should help you picture it. I'm mainly wondering if there's a particular kind of ceramic tile that I should make the shelf out of if I want it to be heat resistant and strong enough.
http://www.polisource.com/misc/kitchen-shelf.gif
This should help you picture it. I'm mainly wondering if there's a particular kind of ceramic tile that I should make the shelf out of if I want it to be heat resistant and strong enough.
http://www.polisource.com/misc/kitchen-shelf.gif
caleyg
12-04-07, 02:49 PM
That's pretty much how I pictured it. I'd consider marble or a formica veneer.
In that situation I'd think about a 9" cabinet with a small slab of countertop--maybe natural stone so the contrast with the rest of the countertop looks OK. I'd also try to contrast the cabinet itself if I couldn't match the existing cabinets well. I have a 9" cabinet next to my stove in a corner and it's a great place for cookie sheets!
I'm thinking a cost of $300 or so for my solution, of course if a total remodel is in your future I'd wait and just purchase a shelf. I wouldn't worry about heat resistance and I wouldn't stick hot pans on it.
The curling linoleum could be cut out if you stuck a cabinet there.
In that situation I'd think about a 9" cabinet with a small slab of countertop--maybe natural stone so the contrast with the rest of the countertop looks OK. I'd also try to contrast the cabinet itself if I couldn't match the existing cabinets well. I have a 9" cabinet next to my stove in a corner and it's a great place for cookie sheets!
I'm thinking a cost of $300 or so for my solution, of course if a total remodel is in your future I'd wait and just purchase a shelf. I wouldn't worry about heat resistance and I wouldn't stick hot pans on it.
The curling linoleum could be cut out if you stuck a cabinet there.
Borad
12-06-07, 03:08 AM
It's a good thing I didn't rush into it. I browsed through the instructions and read that ovens with sealed burners, like mine, need two inches of space on each side. The so-called licensed installer left about 3/4". :(
caleyg
12-06-07, 09:41 AM
I've never seen a stove with 2" on the sides. I'd suspect that that is for anything above the level of the cooktop (say a tall cabinet or wall) and not for the countertop and cabinets next to it. Think about it, drop in cooktops with the same sealed burners are dropped into a hole cut into the countertop.
Borad
12-06-07, 02:02 PM
If that's true then this diagram needs improvement. They should show a wall on one side and a cabinet on the other to show the required clearance is different.
http://products.geappliances.com/ProdContent/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SKUOBJECTS&DOCUMENT=Installation%20Instructions&SKU=RGB533WEHWW
http://www.polisource.com/misc/range-installation.gif
http://products.geappliances.com/ProdContent/Dispatcher?REQUEST=SKUOBJECTS&DOCUMENT=Installation%20Instructions&SKU=RGB533WEHWW
http://www.polisource.com/misc/range-installation.gif
Borad
12-06-07, 03:32 PM
It's explained differently here (http://www.geappliances.com/search/fast/infobase/10011571.htm).
Ranges:
1 ½ inches to nearest adjacent sidewall above the cooktop on both sides.
30 inches between the cooktop and the bottom of a cabinet.
0 inches for sides below the cooktop.
I never noticed that the top cabinets aren't perfectly aligned with the lower ones, but now I see they're at least 1 1/2" shorter.
Ranges:
1 ½ inches to nearest adjacent sidewall above the cooktop on both sides.
30 inches between the cooktop and the bottom of a cabinet.
0 inches for sides below the cooktop.
I never noticed that the top cabinets aren't perfectly aligned with the lower ones, but now I see they're at least 1 1/2" shorter.
caleyg
12-07-07, 07:17 AM
I think you've got it now. Hope you come up with something you're happy with.