Carpentry and Woodworking - Spots on Unfinished Raw Wood. Help Please

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ruser
11-08-07, 04:29 PM
I am trying to remove spots from unfinished/raw timber beams. some of the spots are white cloudy in nature and look like dust, while others are bright white and look like slight water damage. I have tried dusting it off, cleaning it with a damp sponge, used mineral spirits and wood soap but as soon as the wood dries out, the spots are still there. If i peel a small piece off the beam, the wood underneath is perfect and in natural color.

Is sanding my only options? If so the wood is very rough, which grit should i use? I'd appreciate any help. I'm desperate to make my exposed ceiling look clean. :(


chandler
11-08-07, 07:39 PM
Welcome to the forums! Not having seen your wood, I can only give a generic solution. Rather than sanding, try using a soft brass brush (looks sort of like a toothbrush). Sanding will tend to smooth out the surface, the brush won't.

ruser
11-10-07, 04:37 PM
Chandler, thank you for the help but the brush was no success. Here are some pics i just took. On the first pic you can clearly see where i have peeled off a a thin layer off the grey/white area and the natural color shows underneath. I hope anyone can help me clean this up. I am getting desperate. Thank you guys.


http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1223/wood1kk9.th.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wood1kk9.jpg)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5580/wood2ep3.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wood2ep3.jpg)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7471/wood3ch1.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wood3ch1.jpg)
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2228/wood4nw8.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wood4nw8.jpg)


twelvepole
11-10-07, 05:29 PM
My guess is that these are old sap stains. If turpentine does not remove stains, try scraping or planing away.

ruser
11-11-07, 06:28 PM
Tried turpentine but it didnt help. Only thing that seems to work is stripping layers of the wood by scraping or heavy grit sanding. Needless to say, it's a pain working this way on a ceiling. I wonder if a portable power sander or blaster would be much easier.

What about staining. Would the spots show if i just apply a stain on top?

chandler
11-12-07, 04:45 AM
Sandblasting will probably only tend to tear up your wood. I would try stain on a small area just to see. Use an oil based stain, as it may tend to mix better with whatever is causing the stain.

ruser
11-17-07, 06:00 PM
After some heavy scrubbing with turpentine the spots are starting to fade. Is there a solvent thats stronger than turpentine but safe to use on my wood?

Also, is the odorless turpentine just as good? The smell is unbearable and takes a long time to clear out. Thanks for all the tips guys.

marksr
11-18-07, 05:21 AM
Liquid deglosser would probably work better than turpentine or mineral spirits but it has a stronger odor!! Probably not the best time of year but a fan either pulling air out of the space or bringing fresh air in [with another open window for exit] is the best way to disperse the fumes.

ruser
11-20-07, 09:24 PM
What about turpenoid? I hear conflicting reports. Is it as good as turpentine w/o the odor?

marksr
11-21-07, 06:12 AM
I'm not familiar with turpenoid - never used any.