Designing Kitchens and Bathrooms - How close can the SIDE of a range be to an exterior wall?
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hackwriter
09-25-07, 02:29 PM
I currently have a cooktop in a base cabinet. The cabinet abuts an exterior wall. I want to remove this cabinet and replace the cooktop with a range. I understand that I have to have an upgraded circuit put in (and move the junction box, because it's currently mounted to the inside of the cabinet). But what size range can I put in? If I put in a 36" range, it will just about fit. Or, I can put in a 30" range and put in a 6" wide (if I can find one) base cabinet between the range and the wall.
In other words, how far from the wall does the side of the range have to be?
Any recommendations?
In other words, how far from the wall does the side of the range have to be?
Any recommendations?
MissTFried
09-25-07, 02:43 PM
What is on the other side of the 36" cabinet ?
mono1029
09-25-07, 04:31 PM
I'd like to give an opinion, but I need to know a few things first....
Is this installation by choice or by necessity?
Is it standard wood frame / insulation/vapour barrier / drywall construction??
Will there be a backsplash??
Is it a standard coil / ceramic /smoothtop stove??
Is it going to see a lot of use??
Is there anything that could create an desirable situation as far as you know?? i.e. wall has 50 years of wallpaper build-up / there's a gas pipe that runs inside the wall - that sort of thing...
Please let us know...Have a great one!!
Is this installation by choice or by necessity?
Is it standard wood frame / insulation/vapour barrier / drywall construction??
Will there be a backsplash??
Is it a standard coil / ceramic /smoothtop stove??
Is it going to see a lot of use??
Is there anything that could create an desirable situation as far as you know?? i.e. wall has 50 years of wallpaper build-up / there's a gas pipe that runs inside the wall - that sort of thing...
Please let us know...Have a great one!!
hackwriter
09-25-07, 05:47 PM
1. What is on the other side of the cabinet?
Answer: On the other side of the cabinet is another cabinet.
2. "Is this installation by choice or by necessity?:
Answer: By choice. I have a wall oven cabinet on another wall that cuts the kitchen in two. I want to have it taken out to open up the kitchen, which is a nice size at 9 x 17, but between the fridge and the wall oven cabinet which is just stuck on the exterior wall, it really closes in the space. That's why I want to put in a range.
3. Is it standard wood frame / insulation/vapour barrier / drywall construction??
Answer: The walls are plaster. It's wood frame with Tyvek, then foam board, then vinyl siding.
4.Will there be a backsplash??
Answer: Yes. I am planning to have a tile backsplash done; and plan to tile the wall next to the stove as well. This makes me lean towards installing a narrow base cabinet between the stove and the wall.
5. Is it a standard coil / ceramic /smoothtop stove??
Answer: Yes, it will be a smoothtop stove. I had a local high-end appliance store come in to see what they would do. They want to take out the cooktop, cut the base cabinet at the points of the cabinet openings, put in one of their stoves (GE Profile @ $1300 - $1600) and plywood off any space that's left, which I would then reface with the materials I'm using to reface the cabinets. I'm thinking it might make more sense to just remove the cabinet.
6. Is it going to see a lot of use??
Answer: Yes. I cook almost every night.
7. .Is there anything that could create an desirable situation as far as you know?? i.e. wall has 50 years of wallpaper build-up / there's a gas pipe that runs inside the wall - that sort of thing...
Answer: I assume you mean "undesirable" situation. There is no gas pipe inside the wall; there's no gas coming into the house. To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing bad behind the cabinet. If I look inside the cabinet, it is open at the top so I can see the wall behind it. There is, however, a bathtub right on the other side of the interior wall in the adjoining bathroom so the plumbing is right behind the stove. And bizarrely, there is also a BX cable running right next to the pipes. I know this because I had a diverter put into the tub and they had to open up the tile.
Answer: On the other side of the cabinet is another cabinet.
2. "Is this installation by choice or by necessity?:
Answer: By choice. I have a wall oven cabinet on another wall that cuts the kitchen in two. I want to have it taken out to open up the kitchen, which is a nice size at 9 x 17, but between the fridge and the wall oven cabinet which is just stuck on the exterior wall, it really closes in the space. That's why I want to put in a range.
3. Is it standard wood frame / insulation/vapour barrier / drywall construction??
Answer: The walls are plaster. It's wood frame with Tyvek, then foam board, then vinyl siding.
4.Will there be a backsplash??
Answer: Yes. I am planning to have a tile backsplash done; and plan to tile the wall next to the stove as well. This makes me lean towards installing a narrow base cabinet between the stove and the wall.
5. Is it a standard coil / ceramic /smoothtop stove??
Answer: Yes, it will be a smoothtop stove. I had a local high-end appliance store come in to see what they would do. They want to take out the cooktop, cut the base cabinet at the points of the cabinet openings, put in one of their stoves (GE Profile @ $1300 - $1600) and plywood off any space that's left, which I would then reface with the materials I'm using to reface the cabinets. I'm thinking it might make more sense to just remove the cabinet.
6. Is it going to see a lot of use??
Answer: Yes. I cook almost every night.
7. .Is there anything that could create an desirable situation as far as you know?? i.e. wall has 50 years of wallpaper build-up / there's a gas pipe that runs inside the wall - that sort of thing...
Answer: I assume you mean "undesirable" situation. There is no gas pipe inside the wall; there's no gas coming into the house. To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing bad behind the cabinet. If I look inside the cabinet, it is open at the top so I can see the wall behind it. There is, however, a bathtub right on the other side of the interior wall in the adjoining bathroom so the plumbing is right behind the stove. And bizarrely, there is also a BX cable running right next to the pipes. I know this because I had a diverter put into the tub and they had to open up the tile.
mono1029
09-25-07, 06:25 PM
It seems that you have your bases covered....
The GE site says that your GE Profile can be installed with 0" clearance. A six inch counter between it and a refrigerator are actually shown in the installation guide. I questioned the area and your choice of appliance because heat can, and will, build up very quickly - as well, hot liquids can become fire hazards. If you are comfortable working the stove in that position, there is no reason why you shouldn't make the move.
Wishing you the best....
The GE site says that your GE Profile can be installed with 0" clearance. A six inch counter between it and a refrigerator are actually shown in the installation guide. I questioned the area and your choice of appliance because heat can, and will, build up very quickly - as well, hot liquids can become fire hazards. If you are comfortable working the stove in that position, there is no reason why you shouldn't make the move.
Wishing you the best....
hackwriter
09-25-07, 08:54 PM
Well, I was hoping NOT to have to spend that much on a stove, that's why I thought I'd take the cabinet out.
Right now my cooktop is no more than 6-8" from the outside wall, but this will involve an oven. Of course my wall oven is against an outside wall, but it's the BACK of the oven.
It sounds like the best bet is to get a 30" range and put in a narrow base cabinet next to the wall....
Right now my cooktop is no more than 6-8" from the outside wall, but this will involve an oven. Of course my wall oven is against an outside wall, but it's the BACK of the oven.
It sounds like the best bet is to get a 30" range and put in a narrow base cabinet next to the wall....
MissTFried
09-26-07, 10:03 AM
I don't think your going to have much luck finding a 6" base cabinet, most mfr's start at 9" (tray base) You could use a
6' Base End filler But you will need to consider how you will be mounting the top to it.
Can you take the cabinet that is on the other side and put it against the wall, if so you would still have your 36" opening and you would gain valuable countertop space as well as a buffer against the wall
6' Base End filler But you will need to consider how you will be mounting the top to it.
Can you take the cabinet that is on the other side and put it against the wall, if so you would still have your 36" opening and you would gain valuable countertop space as well as a buffer against the wall
hackwriter
09-26-07, 12:25 PM
No can do. The cabinet next to it is a single unit consisting of that cabinet and the one under the sink. The house was built in the 1950's, and it's by pure luck that the cabinet with the cooktop is self-contained. I would guess that with a 30" range I can probably fit a 9" base cabinet next to the wall if I take the whole cabinet out, because that's what would fit if they cut the cabinet where the door openings are.