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kenpoman55
09-19-07, 08:02 PM
I am workingon a 1984 XV1000 virago. It wouldn 't turn over, so I had the starter checked, then rebuilt. I put it in, and the starter spun, no click and gear didn't push out to turn over the motor. so I changed the starter cylinoid. Now it clicks, starter sings, and the slider gear still doesn't push out to catch the crank gear. Any suggestions? All parts are working internally. the spring seems to be ok.
marbobj
09-19-07, 09:42 PM
The spring on a bendix (drive gear) in a starter is to push the bendix back off the flywheel when you stop the current going to the starter.
There are some different designs to make the bendix kick out and engage the flywheel (or driven gear) to turn the engine over. The most common is the spiral groove in the starter shaft. When the starter is energized (key turned to start) The spinning of the starter runs the bendix up the shaft and it engages the driven gear.
You release the key to run position and the spring at the end of the starter pushes the bendix back off the engine's gear. All this is helped along by the engine starting and literally throwing the bendix back down the grooves in shaft.
Since you have the starter spinning, the bendix should move down the shaft. Pull off the starter, ground the case and turn your key to the start position. When the starter spins, is the little gear at the end of the starter moving to the end of the starter?
If it is the bendix is bad. The ratcheting mechanism inside it is faulty.
If it isn't (that's the good news), the shaft is corroded and usually if you lube the shaft with a little penetrating oil, it will normally free up the bendix on the shaft and it will move to the end of the starter to engage the driven gear = starts the engine.
The solenoid you changed wouldn't have needed changed since you already had the starter spinning.
Hope this helps,
Bob
There are some different designs to make the bendix kick out and engage the flywheel (or driven gear) to turn the engine over. The most common is the spiral groove in the starter shaft. When the starter is energized (key turned to start) The spinning of the starter runs the bendix up the shaft and it engages the driven gear.
You release the key to run position and the spring at the end of the starter pushes the bendix back off the engine's gear. All this is helped along by the engine starting and literally throwing the bendix back down the grooves in shaft.
Since you have the starter spinning, the bendix should move down the shaft. Pull off the starter, ground the case and turn your key to the start position. When the starter spins, is the little gear at the end of the starter moving to the end of the starter?
If it is the bendix is bad. The ratcheting mechanism inside it is faulty.
If it isn't (that's the good news), the shaft is corroded and usually if you lube the shaft with a little penetrating oil, it will normally free up the bendix on the shaft and it will move to the end of the starter to engage the driven gear = starts the engine.
The solenoid you changed wouldn't have needed changed since you already had the starter spinning.
Hope this helps,
Bob
brucker
09-21-07, 08:35 PM
I am workingon a 1984 XV1000 virago. It wouldn 't turn over, so I had the starter checked, then rebuilt. I put it in, and the starter spun, no click and gear didn't push out to turn over the motor. so I changed the starter cylinoid. Now it clicks, starter sings, and the slider gear still doesn't push out to catch the crank gear. Any suggestions? All parts are working internally. the spring seems to be ok.
if your battery is low it wont turn the stater fast enought for every thing too work right
if your battery is low it wont turn the stater fast enought for every thing too work right