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estrngd
07-20-07, 10:06 AM
I got a new home. With no lamps - but with electricity. :)
So, I bought this (x7):
- a simple lamp (Tubgsram, 60W, 230V, E27).
- klemme (a set with many singles)
- a lampholder
I could post some photos to be more correct! Is there any way to do this??
In the ceiling come 3 wires. I asked someone and told me that the yellow one is to the earth and sould not be used for the lamp.
But all of them are covered with a "plastic" white. So I stripped of the plastic white from all of them (and I am not sure for the color of each one).
I can put 7 lamps in my place.
My problems:
1. How do I put the 2 wires from the ceiling to the lamp so to make ti light? :) [MY MAIN PROBLEM]
2. Since I cannot understand the color of each wire, if I use accidentally the yellow one, will be a disaster? Or just a simple power off...
3. Is there any option for photos? I could be very precise with this way!!!
4. Shall I use the klemmes?
5. Is there a problem for the 2 good wires to touch each other accidentally?
What I think (maybe):
Thanks in advance.
So, I bought this (x7):
- a simple lamp (Tubgsram, 60W, 230V, E27).
- klemme (a set with many singles)
- a lampholder
I could post some photos to be more correct! Is there any way to do this??
In the ceiling come 3 wires. I asked someone and told me that the yellow one is to the earth and sould not be used for the lamp.
But all of them are covered with a "plastic" white. So I stripped of the plastic white from all of them (and I am not sure for the color of each one).
I can put 7 lamps in my place.
My problems:
1. How do I put the 2 wires from the ceiling to the lamp so to make ti light? :) [MY MAIN PROBLEM]
2. Since I cannot understand the color of each wire, if I use accidentally the yellow one, will be a disaster? Or just a simple power off...
3. Is there any option for photos? I could be very precise with this way!!!
4. Shall I use the klemmes?
5. Is there a problem for the 2 good wires to touch each other accidentally?
What I think (maybe):
Thanks in advance.
estrngd
07-20-07, 10:15 AM
ok, I saw a way to post pictures so I will post them soon.
racraft
07-20-07, 10:33 AM
You are from Europe somewhere, so hopefully someone from your part of the world will post with some perhaps more relevant advice.
If you accidentally use the "earth" wire instead of the proper return wire, the light will still light, but you will create an unsafe situation elsewhere on the circuit and in the house
If you use the proper wires but get them backwards, the light will still light, but you will create an unsafe situation at this light.
Look carefully, there must be some way for you to identify the wires.
If you accidentally use the "earth" wire instead of the proper return wire, the light will still light, but you will create an unsafe situation elsewhere on the circuit and in the house
If you use the proper wires but get them backwards, the light will still light, but you will create an unsafe situation at this light.
Look carefully, there must be some way for you to identify the wires.
estrngd
07-20-07, 10:39 AM
I got a new home. With no lamps - but with electricity. :)
So, I bought this set (x7 lamps):
- a simple bulb (Tubgsram, 60W, 230V, E27).
- klemme (a set with many singles)
- a lampholder
here is the photo of them:
[img]http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/whatihave.jpg[\img]
In the ceiling come 3 wires. You can see them in my bedroom:
[img]http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/3wires-bedroom-unstripped.jpg[\img]
I asked someone and told me that the yellow one is to the earth and sould not be used for the lamp.
But all of them are covered with a "plastic" white. So I stripped of the plastic white from all of them (and I am not sure for the color of each one).
In the photo you can see them stripped in my bathroom (the only place I tried to do sthng).
[img]http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/3wires-bedroom-unstripped.jpg[\img]
My problems:
1. How do I put the 2 wires from the ceiling to the lamp so to make ti light? [MY MAIN PROBLEM]
2. Since I cannot understand the color of each wire, if I use accidentally the yellow one, will be a disaster? Or just a simple power off...
3. Shall I use the klemmes?
4. Is there a problem for the 2 good wires to touch each other accidentally?
A solution I think ( a preview! ... ):
[img]http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/asolution.jpg[\img]
Thanks in advance....................
So, I bought this set (x7 lamps):
- a simple bulb (Tubgsram, 60W, 230V, E27).
- klemme (a set with many singles)
- a lampholder
here is the photo of them:
[img]http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/whatihave.jpg[\img]
In the ceiling come 3 wires. You can see them in my bedroom:
[img]http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/3wires-bedroom-unstripped.jpg[\img]
I asked someone and told me that the yellow one is to the earth and sould not be used for the lamp.
But all of them are covered with a "plastic" white. So I stripped of the plastic white from all of them (and I am not sure for the color of each one).
In the photo you can see them stripped in my bathroom (the only place I tried to do sthng).
[img]http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/3wires-bedroom-unstripped.jpg[\img]
My problems:
1. How do I put the 2 wires from the ceiling to the lamp so to make ti light? [MY MAIN PROBLEM]
2. Since I cannot understand the color of each wire, if I use accidentally the yellow one, will be a disaster? Or just a simple power off...
3. Shall I use the klemmes?
4. Is there a problem for the 2 good wires to touch each other accidentally?
A solution I think ( a preview! ... ):
[img]http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/asolution.jpg[\img]
Thanks in advance....................
classicsat
07-20-07, 11:39 AM
See if there are other markings or identifying marks on the wire.
See where it connects to, and how it is connected.
And post larger pictures, those pictures are too small to see anything clearly.
See where it connects to, and how it is connected.
And post larger pictures, those pictures are too small to see anything clearly.
estrngd
07-20-07, 12:28 PM
classicsat thanks for replying.
The striped wires in the bathroom are these:
http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/stripped-big.jpg
The unstripped wires in the bedroom are these:
http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/unstripped-big.jpg
What I bought (thinking they would do it):
http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/whatigot-big.jpg
The bathroom seems a bit different. All the others, have the triplet (2nd picture) like the bedroom. But the bathroom has a triplet and two others together (1st picture). I stripped the triplet thinking it's the same like all the other triplets, but now I am not sure.
I should try probably the bedroom first.
There are no marks anywere in the wires, and they all come straight from the ceiling.
As far as I can see after stripping in bathroom, the middle in the triplet is blue, and I think (not sure) the other 2 are all yellow.
In an other triplet (not bedroom) where I can see a little more inside the white outside think, there are:
again a blue in the middle. The other 2 don;t see. I am afraid to strip other wires since I do not know if It's ok...
The striped wires in the bathroom are these:
http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/stripped-big.jpg
The unstripped wires in the bedroom are these:
http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/unstripped-big.jpg
What I bought (thinking they would do it):
http://195.251.252.43/~estrngd/whatigot-big.jpg
The bathroom seems a bit different. All the others, have the triplet (2nd picture) like the bedroom. But the bathroom has a triplet and two others together (1st picture). I stripped the triplet thinking it's the same like all the other triplets, but now I am not sure.
I should try probably the bedroom first.
There are no marks anywere in the wires, and they all come straight from the ceiling.
As far as I can see after stripping in bathroom, the middle in the triplet is blue, and I think (not sure) the other 2 are all yellow.
In an other triplet (not bedroom) where I can see a little more inside the white outside think, there are:
again a blue in the middle. The other 2 don;t see. I am afraid to strip other wires since I do not know if It's ok...