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b4413
03-31-07, 09:29 PM
I would like to scrape and redo the popcorn ceilings in my 1981 home. When did the US quit using asbestos in ceiling texture. How else could I verify that I wouldn't be dealing with asbestos? Are there readily available test kits?

Bob


marksr
04-01-07, 06:00 AM
Asbestos was banned in the USA in 1978. The gov't did allow for all asbestos texture supplies to be used up. Your house PROBABLY doesn't have asbestos in the texture but there is no way to know for sure without testing. There are kits available but I've never gotten one so I couldn't tell you where. I'd expect google would be a good place to start - or a paint/drywall supply store.

Asbestos is mainly dangerous in the dry powder form. IF the texture is kept wet and contained, the danger is minimal.

Jampac
04-05-07, 08:15 PM
Keep the dust down wear a mask or respirator and you have nothing to worry about. Asbestos won't cause cancer even if you inhale some when removing popcorn. 95% percent of cancer cases were from people that handled the stuff daily mostly on ships where they used it to insulate pipes and boilers. Also a large number of cancer victims were smokers with diminished lung capacity. You can thank the lawyers and news media for all the histeria related to asbestos, so unless you smoke and plan on snorting the popcorn from the ceiling daily worry not.


twelvepole
04-05-07, 08:22 PM
You can purchase asbestos test kits. Click this link to see: http://www.hardwareandtools.com/invt/pr108

Whether or not popcorn contains asbestos, you still should proceed with caution, especially of sanding and scraping. You do not need to be breathing the dust. If popcorn has been painted, it can be a pain to remove. The trick is to keep popcorn wet. Painted popcorn is difficult to wet. A stripper, gel type that will not drip, can be used. It will keep the popcorn wet. Seal the room off and cover everything.

psyche11
04-06-07, 12:23 AM
Keep the dust down wear a mask or respirator and you have nothing to worry about. Asbestos won't cause cancer even if you inhale some when removing popcorn. 95% percent of cancer cases were from people that handled the stuff daily mostly on ships where they used it to insulate pipes and boilers. Also a large number of cancer victims were smokers with diminished lung capacity. You can thank the lawyers and news media for all the histeria related to asbestos, so unless you smoke and plan on snorting the popcorn from the ceiling daily worry not.

Take all advice you get on the internet with a grain of salt and do your own research. I don't panic about it either, but I don't think I would be as blaise as Jampac.

fidoprincess
04-06-07, 03:26 PM
I just went through this! I found a place to send the sample with $35 and they emailed me the results just 2 days later! The kits take 2 weeks or more.

Our test came back positive but for less than 1% crysolite and our house was built after yours. After it was banned, builders still were allowed to use up their stock and some continued for over 10 years!

Most of the tests of people we knew came back 3%-10% so now I have to make the call to do it myself or have it done by the hazmat guys but no contractor will do it here even though it says <1%! Hazmat estimator just left and charges a bit over $3/sq ft!

I have 2 small kids so I am trying to decide how to proceed but if you want the lab info, I am not sure I can post it here but I can email it to you along with what little I've learned!

(by the way, thanks 12pole! I am leaning to the gel application if I do it myself. Can you tell me the brand names to look for?)

Blue Northern
07-16-09, 09:45 PM
Take all advice you get on the internet with a grain of salt and do your own research. I don't panic about it either, but I don't think I would be as blaise as Jampac.

Unfortunately, too many people have this opinion. Asbestos is the leading cause of death last year in the construction industry.
Any inviromental lab can test your drywall filler, lino etc, for asbestos. It's best to get the pros in, but if you do plan to tackle the job, poly the area you will be working in. Wear a respirator with proper filters for asbestos, a dust mask cannot stop asbestos, it's too small.double bag all debris and use a hepa vacuum to clean up . There are too many precautions to mention here, search your local occupational safety web site for proper asbestos abatement. Best advice is leave it to the pros, gl

Blue Northern
07-16-09, 09:49 PM
I would like to scrape and redo the popcorn ceilings in my 1981 home. When did the US quit using asbestos in ceiling texture. How else could I verify that I wouldn't be dealing with asbestos? Are there readily available test kits?

Bob

Take a small sample ( approx, 1" x 1") to your local enviromental lab, they can test it for you, for a fee of about 35- 50 dollars per sample.Texture that contains asbestos is considered high risk during removal. GL

awesomedell
07-22-09, 02:44 PM
The advice given by Jampac as how to properly remove the asbestos is pretty much on track. Unless you have deep pockets you will find having a "certified" crew remove the texture is very costly. Seal the room during removal, doors, vents etc, put down 2 layers of plastic to catch the debris, wet it down thoroughly, and scrape the stuff off. Wear a mask during the process and all will be fine. Honestly this is exactly the procedure that the "certified" crew would use. I'm not certified and have removed a lot of old texture & this is how I have always done it & I sleep very well at night. But as another poster pointed out, by all means, take advice offered via the internet for what it's worth.:coffee: