Lighting, Light Fixtures, Ceiling and Exhaust Fans - Ceiling Fan Install Question

Hello..

I am replacing a light fixture in our master bedroom with a ceiling fan (no light just the fan.) The light fixture that is up now is controlled by a single pole switch.
I know how to make the proper connections to operate the fan. Where my question comes is we would like to be able to install a switch on the wall that can control the speed of the fan rather than simply only having speed control from the pull chain and relying on the light switch to be on for it to work.
Is there going to be something additional I will need to do from a wiring standpoint to make this a reality?
The ceiling fan has blue,black,white, and green wires
The fixture has black black white white ground
The switch has black white ground
My concern is if I have to get to in depth in terms of running more wires or something I am not going to want to tackle that on my own.
Please advise or if any follow up info is needed let me know also
Thanks in advance

Well you are going to have to run more wires. You are required by code to have a switch that controls either a light or a receptacle inside the room. Once you remove the light (unless you have another switch controlled light or a switch controlled receptacle) you will have a code violation (and a safety issue). Before you go any further, figure out how you will address that issue.

As for the wiring, you have a switch loop. I hope you did not undo the wires in the ceiling that were connected together. You should only have undone the wires that were connected to the light. If yiou did, you will have to figure out which wires are which.

You will need a fan capable of being speed controlled by a wall switch and you will need a wall switch made for the fan.

The extra wire that the fan has is for a light.

I recommend that you buy a fan and light combination with a wall mounted remote control, and then install that remote in place of the switch. This will give you exactly what you need, a light and a fan controlled by a switch.

You will also need a fan rated box in the ceiling. Sometimes we forget to mention that.

I bought one of those braces for the ceiling at home depot with the box that comes with it. Will that suffice for the box?
I have a Hampton Bay fan no light. Im leaning toward one of these remote control recievers you can add up in the canopy of the fan and the remote is wall mounted as suggested before.
My fan doesnt say one way or the other if it is remote compatible or not. My assumption is that the remote you can by for like $40.00 will work... I have gotten the same answer from someone at home depot but Im hesitant to take that word as final because those guys have been known to be wrong.

As I have stated before I am trying to avoid having to run more wires, but yet still want to have speed control of the fan beyond the use of the pull chain.
Will a remote control make that happen...
or will a single pole fan switch, which I saw at the store possibly do it as well.
Behind the dimmer switch up there now is a black, a white and a ground.
Please advise....

As I stated, you are going to have to run more wires. You must make either a receptacle switched or have a switched light. You cannot avoid this rule.

Decide first how to handle this. We'll then go from there.

So what you are saying is that if I put a fan up there with no light on it, its a code violation. I dont know what you mean by: "you are going to have to run more wires. You must make either a receptacle switched or have a switched light."
The switch only controls that light fixture.

Why cant I wire the fan with remote control.
My wife doesnt want a fan with a light on it.

Can you at least explain in more detail what you are referring to by receptacle switched and switched light

Also one more question, and let me preface by saying I appreciate the concern, but how is it going to be a safety issue if I dont have a switch that controls the lights in my bedroom

If I told you this fan had a light assembly would that make you feel batter? lol
please advise
thanks

As I stated in my first response,

"You are required by code to have a switch that controls either a light or a receptacle inside the room. Once you remove the light (unless you have another switch controlled light or a switch controlled receptacle) you will have a code violation (and a safety issue)."

This is done for safety. The idea is that you are able to turn a light on when you enter a room without having to walk across a dark room, etc.

Now before you (or anyone else) points this out, I already know that sometimes the receptacle that is switched is in a bad location. Yes, I know this. People do things like run an extension cord just so that they can have a switched light where they want it, or people defeat the switch so that their clock won't get turned off. I can't do much about that (although sometimes the switched receptacle can easily be changed).

My point is this. Removing this light will create a violation. I am not going to help you create a violation.

Perhaps your wife will rethink her choice when she realizes she would have to enter a dark room. You can address this issue by running wires from the switch to one (or more) of the receptacles,or by installing a fan with a light. Who knows, you may even already have the proper wires run to address this issue at the receptacles.

If I told you this fan had a light assembly would that make you feel batter? lol
please advise


Install the fan on the newly installed fan box. Connect the black from the ceiling box (old fixture) to the black blue (together-blk fan-blue LIGHT kit).
The white ceiling to the white on the fan.

Connect in the switch box the new switch for the fan. Black to black on switch and black to black on switch.

Now when you turn on the fan the light will work. If you elect to pull the chain on the light so it does not work. thats your issue. You DO have a light kit. right?

Code clearly states that you MUST have a switched light or Receptacle in any room. So don't mess with the light pull chain.