Toilets, Sinks, Showers, Tubs and Disposals - Water Saving Toilet

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effielew52
02-26-07, 08:19 AM
Is there any way to INCREASE the amount of water in the Bowl of a water conserving toilet?


mango man
02-26-07, 09:03 AM
i don't think so if its a gravity flush it designed to start flushing once the water reaches a certain level

effielew52
02-27-07, 10:32 PM
I don't believe it's a gravity flush--just a 1.6 gal/flush type. There seems to be too little water in the bowl. This necessitates multiple flushes in some instances, but I think if there were more water in the bowl, the extra flushes would not be necessary. Any other thoughts? Thanks in advance


chandler
02-28-07, 05:44 AM
It is not the amount of water in the bowl that flushes, rather the amount of water in the tank washing past it creating a vacuum and pulling the water out of the bowl. I don't think there is a way to increase this level. Make sure the little hose is putting water down the center overflow tubing. If it has come loose or is not pointed into the overflow, the bowl fill will be affected.

effielew52
02-28-07, 09:26 PM
Thanks so much--I never considered it that way-I have noted that the tank is not quite filled to the 'line'. The mechanism is not the traditional flapper, rather a larger reservoir in the middle of the tank. The flush mechanism (float) on the other hand is the Flo Master replacement kit. I will see what I can do to allow for greater fill.

thanks, again.

mango man
02-28-07, 09:42 PM
It is not the amount of water in the bowl that flushes

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sure its the amount in the bowl

take a couple of gals and pour it into the bowl and you get a flush .

doesn't need to get anywhere near the tank , no vacuum involved

we do it on jobsites where the waters off but the pools still full ...

use the toilet , grab a bucket , dip it in the pool and flush

try it ...

chandler
03-01-07, 06:25 AM
Mango man, what you are creating by pouring the water down into the bowl is the imbalance in water level, which is done with the tank, but there is a vacuum produced between the water leaving the tank and the stable water in the bowl, causing the imbalance and flushing. The tank is just a convenience to keep you from having to go to the pool everytime you want to flush your toilet. Now, I will concede with the older 5 gallon flushers, the water tended to fill up the bowl before the flush completed, but with the 1.6, they literally suck the water in the bowl down. Take care.

mango man
03-01-07, 06:41 AM
but your still going to create a imbalance by havening a higher than designed water level

no ?

I have a guest bathroom with a drain leak in the wall that I haven't gotten to yet here in the mango shack

quick fix is the sink drains into a five gallon bucket in the vanity cab , a couple of times a week I dump it into the low flush toilet and it flushes it right down

too raise the water level in the bowl you would have to redisgn the fixture so it balanced at the new higher level

Carbuff
03-01-07, 08:35 AM
On my 1.6 water saver toilet, I just had to raise the float and also raise the little float on the flap chain and now it uses more than 1.6 gallons and seldom requires a second flush.

chandler
03-01-07, 03:29 PM
Mango, you're right! There will be an imbalance by having too high a water level in the bowl, but it will equalize until you either flush the tank, or pour your bucket of water in it. Now, let's get to fixing that sink drain!!