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toadpad
11-28-06, 01:48 AM
I am replacing my tubular “P-trap” with secdual 40 ABS pipe and trap. My goal is to eliminate all of those leaky bushings. The only bushing I can’t eliminate is the one between the tail piece and the strainer housing.
Is their any way to connect the “P-trap” to the strainer housing without using the bushing?
Is their any way to connect the “P-trap” to the strainer housing without using the bushing?
shacko
11-29-06, 09:14 AM
I am replacing my tubular “P-trap” with secdual 40 ABS pipe and trap. My goal is to eliminate all of those leaky bushings. The only bushing I can’t eliminate is the one between the tail piece and the strainer housing.
Is their any way to connect the “P-trap” to the strainer housing without using the bushing?
Since I don't have any idea what you are calling a bushing, I don't have any idea what you are trying to do. If you have to get all the mechanical joints out you can use a female adapter on the basket strainer and glue the whole mess together. BAD IDEA!!
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"If all else fails, read the directions"
Is their any way to connect the “P-trap” to the strainer housing without using the bushing?
Since I don't have any idea what you are calling a bushing, I don't have any idea what you are trying to do. If you have to get all the mechanical joints out you can use a female adapter on the basket strainer and glue the whole mess together. BAD IDEA!!
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"If all else fails, read the directions"
krankyoleman
11-29-06, 05:24 PM
If you can find the right size you could use a fernco. I hope your drain never cloggs.
toadpad
12-01-06, 02:12 AM
I have previously gone to the big box store "Home Depot", I tried attaching a female adapter on a basket strainer but found that none of the adaptors would fit. I tried black ABS and PVC and I tried about 6 different types of basket strainers. in each case the threads would not line up properly. They would go on around 2 turns but then they would bind up. They were pretty close but they seemed to have different threads. I was surprised. I think that because basket strainers are intended to be used with compression fittings they use a different thread ratio.
One time I purchased a sink from IKEA and it came with a basket strainer. This one was different. The threaded portion was about twice as long and it accepted the female adaptor easily. Unfortunately IKEA doesn’t the part individually.
My schedule 40 "P" trap has 1 mechanical union on it. I will add a Fernco rubber coupling to the trap arm to facilitate clearing clogs.
The part I called a bushing is the plastic ring that seals the tail piece to the basket strainer.
One time I purchased a sink from IKEA and it came with a basket strainer. This one was different. The threaded portion was about twice as long and it accepted the female adaptor easily. Unfortunately IKEA doesn’t the part individually.
My schedule 40 "P" trap has 1 mechanical union on it. I will add a Fernco rubber coupling to the trap arm to facilitate clearing clogs.
The part I called a bushing is the plastic ring that seals the tail piece to the basket strainer.
chandler
12-01-06, 05:18 AM
Plastic rings don't fit baskets, period. You will have to use a t gasket and metal ring to attach the tailpiece to the basket.
toadpad
12-01-06, 12:21 PM
Yes, I am referring to the plastic gasket. It is the one that come with the basket strainer under the metal nut to which the tail piece is attached.
Over the years I have noticed that people store a lot of things under kitchen sink. And sometimes they bump into the tubular pipes which cause a slow leak around the bushings. These leaks are often un-reported and cause extreme damage to cabinets and floor and callings before they are corrected. I figured out a way to eliminate all of the bushings and I would like to find a stronger way to connect the drain pipe to the basket strainer. I don’t trust the tail piece gasket.
Are there different types of gaskets? I have always used the semi clear plastic one that comes with the basket strainer.
Is there a way to avoid using the gasket altogether?
Over the years I have noticed that people store a lot of things under kitchen sink. And sometimes they bump into the tubular pipes which cause a slow leak around the bushings. These leaks are often un-reported and cause extreme damage to cabinets and floor and callings before they are corrected. I figured out a way to eliminate all of the bushings and I would like to find a stronger way to connect the drain pipe to the basket strainer. I don’t trust the tail piece gasket.
Are there different types of gaskets? I have always used the semi clear plastic one that comes with the basket strainer.
Is there a way to avoid using the gasket altogether?
chandler
12-01-06, 04:29 PM
If there were a way to eliminate the washer, you would probably have a welded joint, and maintenance would be a bear. I have never had the problem with people bumping the plumbing causing a leak at the tailpiece. And the most water you would have would be noticed the first time you looked under the sink. I fear pressure leaks alot more than dwv leaks.
toadpad
12-02-06, 01:50 AM
Yes, the leak would be small but that is part of the problem. I am dealing with multiple tenants in multiple units. Some tenants don't report any problems. There are a lot of people who are willing to live with a little water under the sink.
Looks like I will have to continue using a short brass tail piece and plastic gasket.
Looks like I will have to continue using a short brass tail piece and plastic gasket.
Woodbutcher
12-02-06, 07:17 PM
Hi, I know that an adapter is made that connects a basket strainer directly to abs via a glue joint. The adapter is abs and has a nut with a gaket that screws onto the strainer then you glue the abs pipe to the adapter.. That being said, I don't like that type of system if the line plugs up you have a hard time getting at the problem most of the time I had to cut it loose so I could get my snake in the line. The nut on the adapter also breaks, time for the hack saw again. When I had those problems I cut out the abs glued in a adapter and used tubular from there. They make a tappered rubber washer that is shapped like the plastic ones. When I put those on and tighten the joint by hand I could not pull them apart they work well.
Good Luck Woodbutcher
Good Luck Woodbutcher
toadpad
12-03-06, 12:51 PM
I will try to find the rubber gasket.