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tan123
11-13-06, 09:51 AM
Hi I am planning to finish my basement and I plan to use metal studs.
The question I have is do I have to screw the stud to track on the front and the back? If I dont screw it at the back, then the stud does not seem to be stable and can twist easily

I can do the front easily but at the back, since I have to at an angle with my screwdriver, the self threading screws do not go into the metal. So the only way I have been able to do it is by using a nailset to punch into the metal and then use the screw.
I am using 1/2" screws. Is this the right way of doing it?

Second question is that if the track and studs are flush against the basement cinder block walls, there is no space at the back to screw the back of the stud to the track.
Please advise.

Thanks


tightcoat
11-13-06, 10:39 AM
I always wondered about this myself. Maybe you can lay the wall out on the floor and raise it into place then secure the tracks and the fronts of the studs to the track? I don't think that's how it's usually done. Or maybe this tack the track temproarily out away from the wall, assemble it and screw the back side then slide the assembly into final position and secure the track.

Ed Imeduc
11-13-06, 10:56 AM
lay out the wall on the floor and put the screws in on the back side or wall side put the wall up and do the front side.
Dont forget to put a P/T 2X4 down on the cement floor then set the steel stud wall on this.

ED ;)


Snoonyb
11-14-06, 01:09 AM
Paint the walls with DRYLOCK paint, hold the framing 1" from the wall, also paint the floor where the bottom trak will set,
One screw top and botton is sufficient.

tan123
11-14-06, 07:22 AM
In some sections I dont have space to build out the entire frame on the floor. So I guess I will have to leave some space from the wall if i want to screw the back of the studs, after punching holes with the nail set.

ttraviss
02-08-07, 11:21 PM
I know it's been awhile since this post was started.

I have framed my 1500sq foot basement with steel studs. The best idea is to move the framed wall off the cement a little. If your using the correct little pan head self drilling screw for metal studs it only takes 1/4 inch away from the wall to be able to use a screw at the front and back. The biggest time saver is a magnetic bit extension. Also a good cordless drill that has a high RPM. Attaching the front screws work best with a C clap or pliers holding the two metals together.

Here's a link to what screw I'm talking about found at home depot but was cheaper at my home depot then what they say here. 3lb box was $20 ish
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/jsearch/product.jsp?pn=100431405

My method is to measure out from the wall 1 inch and attach the floor channel for the entire length of the wall and frame then in 8 ft section 16 inches on center. Use a few studs to hold up the top plate and get a magnetic level and level the studs before attaching the top plate. Once the top plate is attached go back and fill in remaining studs. This method there's no plumb bob needed. Hope this helps.

Ed Imeduc
02-09-07, 03:54 PM
attach the floor channel for the entire length of the wall and frame then in 8 ft section 16 inches on center.

You should always put a P/T 2X down for the bottom plate all the time. This way build the wall on the floor and put it upon top of the P/T bottom plate. then you can screw the front screws in the studs. ;)

ttraviss
02-09-07, 10:34 PM
Thanks Ed,
But why use a p/t wood stud? Metal and painted cement are fine. In fact many people attach the metal right to the floor. The only reason for using a p/t wood stud is for nailing your base trim on. I have read many posts on Metal framing so please explain.

Jampac
02-24-07, 10:00 PM
Shoot the track directly to the concrete with a hilti or similar powder actuated tool. Screw the top track to the floor joists using 1-1/4 drywall screws, then infill with studs you don't even have to screw the stud to the track if you don't want to. Don't worry about how flimsy the studs feel this is a systems once the drywall is properly installed the wall will feel as solid as a wood framed one.

Ed Imeduc
02-25-07, 10:09 PM
You want to just use the P/T 2X on the floor .Then just nail the floor channel to it. In many homes they dont put down a poly V/B under the cement.