Lighting, Light Fixtures, Ceiling and Exhaust Fans - Light/fan Switches
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Menudo
10-03-06, 11:32 AM
Need help with a small problem... I removed and replaced three total switches in my bathroom (one for a fan and light combo) in the same outlet box. I also remove and replace another light switch in the same bathroom in another part of the room. Anyways, after turning the power back on the single light switch and light works fine but the fan/light comb doesn't work. Also I checked the hot line (should be the black jumper line on the bottom). I now have no power going to the line or any line in the box. The fan/light are connected with a jumper (not sure if I did something wrong with the jumper, never seen it before) or if changing the light switch in the another part of the bathroom maybe shorting the other but allow it to work. I've also checked around the home the only two GFCI's I could find are reset (new to the home too). Not sure if I missed a GFCI or missing something else. Any help would be appreciated, would not be fun to pay a lot of cash just because I wanted to add some new color matching switches.
Menudo
Menudo
jwhite
10-03-06, 12:19 PM
I am hopeing that the only wires you unhooked in the switch boxes were attached to the switches and you put them back in the same way that you took them appart.
If so, my guess is that one of the "pigtails" from wires that are connected in the back of the box to the switch is loose.
Turn off power at the breaker panel. Then carefully pull the different splices out of the boxes. Pay attention so that if something else comes loose you will know where it goes back.
Find the pigtails that feed the switches and make sure that they are secure in the wirenuts that connect them to the circuit conductors in the box. It may be a good idea to just go ahead and re-make all of the connections.
If so, my guess is that one of the "pigtails" from wires that are connected in the back of the box to the switch is loose.
Turn off power at the breaker panel. Then carefully pull the different splices out of the boxes. Pay attention so that if something else comes loose you will know where it goes back.
Find the pigtails that feed the switches and make sure that they are secure in the wirenuts that connect them to the circuit conductors in the box. It may be a good idea to just go ahead and re-make all of the connections.
Menudo
10-04-06, 08:45 PM
J,
I looked at all the pigtail wires look good to me, re-connected as recommended, no luck still no power to any of the lines. I used a tester to see if any power was coming in. I may have messed something up in the reconnect or maybe the switches I'm using may have something to do with it.
For connections I have: All blk wires in the back of both swithes, the top of the fan switch has one with the jumper on the bottom going across to the bottom of the light swith, I also have a second wire in the bottom of the light switch and one in the top.
fan light
1 1
1--------1+1
Why would I lose power just in that room?
Should I placed the plus 1 wire on the other switch
With the C/B on I should be able to touch the jumper wire with a test and ground to get the test light to come on, I'm getting nothing.
thanks, anything you can do to help...
Patrick
I looked at all the pigtail wires look good to me, re-connected as recommended, no luck still no power to any of the lines. I used a tester to see if any power was coming in. I may have messed something up in the reconnect or maybe the switches I'm using may have something to do with it.
For connections I have: All blk wires in the back of both swithes, the top of the fan switch has one with the jumper on the bottom going across to the bottom of the light swith, I also have a second wire in the bottom of the light switch and one in the top.
fan light
1 1
1--------1+1
Why would I lose power just in that room?
Should I placed the plus 1 wire on the other switch
With the C/B on I should be able to touch the jumper wire with a test and ground to get the test light to come on, I'm getting nothing.
thanks, anything you can do to help...
Patrick
jwhite
10-05-06, 02:48 AM
If you are getting no power on any of the wires in the switch box, then a breaker or gfi is tripped somewhere. Keep looking and press the test and reset buttons on all of them.
Menudo
10-05-06, 10:04 AM
J,
Thanks for the help...but I found what I did wrong. The 1st switch I replace is where the power comes into the room. The 1st switch has three black wires, my mistake was that I did correctly connect the wire that made the other switch box hot. I mixed the wires up because the new switch have grounding spot. I 1st put one of the black wires on the grounding spot making that light work fine but not send power to the other box. After checking and reconnecting the black wire the 2nd switches would only work when the 1st was on, you can see how much time I wasted on that problem. Anyway, I got it to work thanks very much for the ideas. The one about re-checking all the GFCI and C/B is what made me figure it out. Thanks
Patrick
Thanks for the help...but I found what I did wrong. The 1st switch I replace is where the power comes into the room. The 1st switch has three black wires, my mistake was that I did correctly connect the wire that made the other switch box hot. I mixed the wires up because the new switch have grounding spot. I 1st put one of the black wires on the grounding spot making that light work fine but not send power to the other box. After checking and reconnecting the black wire the 2nd switches would only work when the 1st was on, you can see how much time I wasted on that problem. Anyway, I got it to work thanks very much for the ideas. The one about re-checking all the GFCI and C/B is what made me figure it out. Thanks
Patrick