Walls and Ceilings - bowed ceiling
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Haulinbass02
05-29-06, 12:36 AM
In my remodeling venture, I have found sections of the ceiling are bowed near the edges of the wall. It appears to have gotten wet, sagged then dried like that. I would like to avoid replacing the entire ceiling if possible. I was thinking of just cutting out the bowed 16x32 sections and replacing that? Is that going to work and look okay? Eventually it will all get Crown molding and it needs to be straight in those areas.
DaVeBoy
05-29-06, 06:14 PM
How many rooms did this occur in?
What rooms are they?
What is above the ceiling?
Is this happening at the exterior wall locations only?
If the attic/roof is above this ceiling...do you have a gable roof (sloped on 2 sides on the house), or hip roof (sloped on a 4 sides)? The reason I ask, is I want you tell us... in relation to the slope of the roof, if the sags are at the sloped roof sides of the house (which would be load bearing and where the joists above would cross)...or...if it is doing this sagging on the non-load bearing walls because there are no joists crossing the sheetrock. You see, I'm trying to figure out what type of support, if any, is above that sheetrock where the sags are. And if, on non load bearing walls, they left out a joist near the wall, and simply let the sheetrock float out there, and relied on just sheetrock tape.
Did any sheetrock tape tear at the wall ceiling joint? Or, is this joint straight, and instead the sagging is in some from that joint?
If it tore the sheetrock paper I am guessing that whoever sheetrocked did not install the ceiling 'rock first and then sheetrock the walls last. If they did, then the ceiling 'rock would not be able to sag or swag at the wall/ceiling joint.
IF by chance everything was built normal and everything i said above is odf no consequence, and there was indeed this water problem up above...can you clue us in on how you think water would just be leaking in above these areas and not out in the middle of rooms? Do you have a history of ice damming in the winter, for example? If so, that issue would have to be fixed. (Ice damming occurs due to lack of enough insulation in the attic above. To fix, one either needs to add more insulation in the attic (which is really the right way), or continue to waste heat up through the roof...or, to at least have yourself or roofers install a 3 foot wide run of iceguard membrane under the shingles at the sloped low sides of the roof, so that if water/ice does back up, making icicles in the process, that at least water damage to the ceiling inside will not occur.
What rooms are they?
What is above the ceiling?
Is this happening at the exterior wall locations only?
If the attic/roof is above this ceiling...do you have a gable roof (sloped on 2 sides on the house), or hip roof (sloped on a 4 sides)? The reason I ask, is I want you tell us... in relation to the slope of the roof, if the sags are at the sloped roof sides of the house (which would be load bearing and where the joists above would cross)...or...if it is doing this sagging on the non-load bearing walls because there are no joists crossing the sheetrock. You see, I'm trying to figure out what type of support, if any, is above that sheetrock where the sags are. And if, on non load bearing walls, they left out a joist near the wall, and simply let the sheetrock float out there, and relied on just sheetrock tape.
Did any sheetrock tape tear at the wall ceiling joint? Or, is this joint straight, and instead the sagging is in some from that joint?
If it tore the sheetrock paper I am guessing that whoever sheetrocked did not install the ceiling 'rock first and then sheetrock the walls last. If they did, then the ceiling 'rock would not be able to sag or swag at the wall/ceiling joint.
IF by chance everything was built normal and everything i said above is odf no consequence, and there was indeed this water problem up above...can you clue us in on how you think water would just be leaking in above these areas and not out in the middle of rooms? Do you have a history of ice damming in the winter, for example? If so, that issue would have to be fixed. (Ice damming occurs due to lack of enough insulation in the attic above. To fix, one either needs to add more insulation in the attic (which is really the right way), or continue to waste heat up through the roof...or, to at least have yourself or roofers install a 3 foot wide run of iceguard membrane under the shingles at the sloped low sides of the roof, so that if water/ice does back up, making icicles in the process, that at least water damage to the ceiling inside will not occur.