Solid Hardwood, Engineered and Laminate Flooring - Cutting out laminate flooring currently under cabinets
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richardfj
05-18-06, 03:19 PM
The person who owned the house I'm about to move into before me put in new floors and cabinets in the kitchen. He did such a terrible job, that I'm having to replace the floors to make them look right. I've got a beautiful floating bamboo floor picked out that I think will look great.
The problem is that he laid the floors under the cabinets (not just under the appliance areas) .. and in needing to replace the floors I obviously don't want to pull out the cabinets. Is there a trick, tool or anything else anyone can advice me on as I embark on trying to cut the existing laminate floor at the base of the cabinets (under the toe kick)?
Luckily it's not a big kitchen, but this looks like it could be a complete and royal pain in my rear.
R
The problem is that he laid the floors under the cabinets (not just under the appliance areas) .. and in needing to replace the floors I obviously don't want to pull out the cabinets. Is there a trick, tool or anything else anyone can advice me on as I embark on trying to cut the existing laminate floor at the base of the cabinets (under the toe kick)?
Luckily it's not a big kitchen, but this looks like it could be a complete and royal pain in my rear.
R
Carpets Done Wright
05-18-06, 09:01 PM
Go to www.craintools.com and click on specialty saws.
Look at the toe kick saw.
Look at the toe kick saw.
richardfj
05-18-06, 10:30 PM
That's awesome ... never seen anything like that
Of course, I might have a hard time spending $200 + on a tool I will use this one time only ... hmm .. .I wonder if anyone in my area rents them ...
Of course, I might have a hard time spending $200 + on a tool I will use this one time only ... hmm .. .I wonder if anyone in my area rents them ...
Marco1
05-19-06, 02:46 PM
or a Sawz-All(sp?)
richardfj
05-19-06, 03:21 PM
Unless they make an angeled blade for the Sawzall I won't get it under the toe kick ...
BuiLDPro68
05-19-06, 03:48 PM
or a Sawz-All(sp?)what I would use. You can cut while bending the blade a little. If you back cut a little fine. Then you just butt the new flooring and shoe mold it.
Seymour
05-19-06, 08:11 PM
What about using a Dovetail/Jamb Saw? It you hold it sideways you may be able to do it, but it may take a while.
BuiLDPro68
05-19-06, 08:17 PM
What about using a Dovetail/Jamb Saw? It you hold it sideways you may be able to do it, but it may take a while.LOL I would like to see that :)
richardfj
05-19-06, 08:19 PM
so using the Sawzall ... you think I can get close enough to the cabinet by bending the blade ... I'll definetly try that ... I don't have a Sawzall right now, but at least the Sawzall I can use for a bunch of other projects ... as opposed to the toe-kick saw ...
richardfj
05-19-06, 08:21 PM
yeah ... I'm thinking the jamb saw would end up having me install new cabinets ...
but ... what about this one ... just came across it on Amazon ...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004SUP4/qid=1148091984/sr=1-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-5742243-3116100?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=hi&v=glance&n=228013
anyone used this before? ... would it work?
but ... what about this one ... just came across it on Amazon ...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004SUP4/qid=1148091984/sr=1-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-5742243-3116100?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=hi&v=glance&n=228013
anyone used this before? ... would it work?
BuiLDPro68
05-19-06, 08:24 PM
That's actually a nice tool I had one before. However I don't think it's the right one for your job. Let me make sure I am picturing this right. You have to cut your existing flooring flush with the toe kick which is backset 3" or so right?
richardfj
05-19-06, 08:27 PM
yep ...
cutting flush with the base of the cabinet .. which is backset with the toe-kick ... I dont' have the measurements in front of me, but 3" sounds about right ... and it probably about 3" tall as well ... so the tool needs to be able to cut perpendicular to the floor, 3" inches in, with the tool fitting below the 3" tall "over-hang" ...
cutting flush with the base of the cabinet .. which is backset with the toe-kick ... I dont' have the measurements in front of me, but 3" sounds about right ... and it probably about 3" tall as well ... so the tool needs to be able to cut perpendicular to the floor, 3" inches in, with the tool fitting below the 3" tall "over-hang" ...
BuiLDPro68
05-19-06, 08:34 PM
right ok what I thought. sawz all..10" blade and you can cut it. If you do this sort of thing long enough you learn to get surgical with a sawz all. My one concern is you may end up scratching up your toe kick quite a bit. You may have to replace it. I could probably get away without scratching it but then I have done a lot of sawz alling (taking serious license on the english language here lol)
Carpets Done Wright
05-19-06, 10:03 PM
After you use the toe kick saw, you can e-bay it and get most if not all your money back.
BuiLDPro68
05-19-06, 10:33 PM
After you use the toe kick saw, you can e-bay it and get most if not all your money back.Yeah and thinking about it from a laymans point of view, That might be a wise decision. I can't see anyone inexperienced not tearing up the toe kick laminate with a sawz all. Clearly the best and easiest tool for the job would be the specialty tool, cost not withstanding. Just hard for me to picture using a tool only once.
richardfj
05-20-06, 01:30 PM
and quite honestly ... even though I'm completely comfortable with how the Sawzall works, I haven't really worked with one ... so I might just have to invest in the toe kick saw ... and take my luck on eBay ...
richardfj
06-27-06, 02:51 PM
BTW ... if figured I'd post back how this all went.
What I figured out, was that the easiest way to remove the floors were simply to bend it up and it would break at the base of the cabinets. Since this stuff is basically cardboard it snapped fairly easily at the base of the cabinets as I bent it up. I was obviously very careful to make sure that I watched for any movement in the cabinets as I was doing this ... since I didn't really want to crack the granite counter tops ... and I did end up having to back over with a knife and my dremel saw to cut some of the edges a little cleaner
all in all ... more painful than I had wished for ... but pretty straight forward
What I figured out, was that the easiest way to remove the floors were simply to bend it up and it would break at the base of the cabinets. Since this stuff is basically cardboard it snapped fairly easily at the base of the cabinets as I bent it up. I was obviously very careful to make sure that I watched for any movement in the cabinets as I was doing this ... since I didn't really want to crack the granite counter tops ... and I did end up having to back over with a knife and my dremel saw to cut some of the edges a little cleaner
all in all ... more painful than I had wished for ... but pretty straight forward