Lighting, Light Fixtures, Ceiling and Exhaust Fans - 2 ceiling fans, 2 3-ways switches, 1 fan control
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Willie66
03-15-06, 08:30 PM
I've been searching for the answer, but decided it was better to just ask the question...
I'm wiring an addition I've built. I have 2 ceiling fans, each w/ a light.
I want one switch to control both lights placed near each of two entrances (a total of two 3-way switches for the lights) AND I want one fan control switch that will control both fans near only one of the entrances.
How should I wire this?
Can I do the lights with regular 3-way dimmer switches? And then use a remote fan switch with two control modules set to the same code (as was suggested by a Home Depot guy)?
I'm wiring an addition I've built. I have 2 ceiling fans, each w/ a light.
I want one switch to control both lights placed near each of two entrances (a total of two 3-way switches for the lights) AND I want one fan control switch that will control both fans near only one of the entrances.
How should I wire this?
Can I do the lights with regular 3-way dimmer switches? And then use a remote fan switch with two control modules set to the same code (as was suggested by a Home Depot guy)?
joed
03-15-06, 09:12 PM
You can do it all with switches if you like. You don't need remotes unles you want them.
Exactly how the cable is run would depend entirely on the room layout. There are many ways to do it. None is better than the other. It depends on things like where the power comes in(sw1, sw2, the light?)
Exactly how the cable is run would depend entirely on the room layout. There are many ways to do it. None is better than the other. It depends on things like where the power comes in(sw1, sw2, the light?)
Willie66
03-15-06, 10:03 PM
Thanks. I'd rather do it all with just switches. My layout is like this:
Power will come in through switch location #1 (1 3-way dimmer switch for lights AND 1 fan control switch controlling BOTH fans). The fans w/ lights are in the middle and switch location #2 will be on the other end.
My concerns are:
a. how to wire the lights with 3-way switching while,
b. wiring the fans to just one switch.
c. Should a neutral wire be shared between the fans and lights? Someone had told me that they shouldn't. This would seem hard to avoid since there is only 1 white wire coming from each of the fan/light units.
I think my fans are fairly typical (1 each of Black, White, and Blue)
Power will come in through switch location #1 (1 3-way dimmer switch for lights AND 1 fan control switch controlling BOTH fans). The fans w/ lights are in the middle and switch location #2 will be on the other end.
My concerns are:
a. how to wire the lights with 3-way switching while,
b. wiring the fans to just one switch.
c. Should a neutral wire be shared between the fans and lights? Someone had told me that they shouldn't. This would seem hard to avoid since there is only 1 white wire coming from each of the fan/light units.
I think my fans are fairly typical (1 each of Black, White, and Blue)
joed
03-16-06, 06:23 AM
The simplest way to do this is from the switch box with power run a 14/3 cable to the second switch direct. Don't go though the lights/fans. Then from the first switch box run a 14/3 cable to fan/light1 then 14/3 from F/L1 to F/L2.
You will share the neutral between fan and light. There is no problem with this.
I don't have way to draw this for you so I will describe it.
At first switch box.
power cable black to two pigtails. One pigtail to fan switch and one to COMMON of three way switch.
Power cable white to 14/3 white to fan/light.
F/L 14/3 black to other screw of fan switch.
F/L red to black from 14/3 to second switch.
Red and white from second switch 14/3 to traveller screws on light three way switch.
At second switch
Black to common screw
RED and white to traveller screws.
At fan/light (same at both)
Connect all blacks
Connect all whites
Connect fan/light blue wire to the red wire(s)
At all boxes connect all grounds together.
If this is a 20 amp circuit you must use 12/3 instead of 14/3.
You will share the neutral between fan and light. There is no problem with this.
I don't have way to draw this for you so I will describe it.
At first switch box.
power cable black to two pigtails. One pigtail to fan switch and one to COMMON of three way switch.
Power cable white to 14/3 white to fan/light.
F/L 14/3 black to other screw of fan switch.
F/L red to black from 14/3 to second switch.
Red and white from second switch 14/3 to traveller screws on light three way switch.
At second switch
Black to common screw
RED and white to traveller screws.
At fan/light (same at both)
Connect all blacks
Connect all whites
Connect fan/light blue wire to the red wire(s)
At all boxes connect all grounds together.
If this is a 20 amp circuit you must use 12/3 instead of 14/3.
lectriclee
03-16-06, 09:11 AM
I don't have way to draw this for you so I will describe it.
At first switch box.
power cable black to two pigtails. One pigtail to fan switch and one to COMMON of three way switch.
Power cable white to 14/3 white to fan/light.
F/L 14/3 black to other screw of fan switch.
F/L red to black from 14/3 to second switch.
Red and white from second switch 14/3 to traveller screws on light three way switch.
At second switch
Black to common screw
RED and white to traveller screws.
At fan/light (same at both)
Connect all blacks
Connect all whites
Connect fan/light blue wire to the red wire(s)
At all boxes connect all grounds together.
It looks like we forgot the originating box(power,3/w-3wto fan) sw1 Black pigtail to black14/3 TO sw2
tuck in box-- White and red FROM sw2 TO sw1 traveler screws-- red FROM fan/light to common screw on sw1.
I think we have it now, Draw it out , you'll see. Also you only need 1 dimmer sw. and 1-3 way toggle.
At first switch box.
power cable black to two pigtails. One pigtail to fan switch and one to COMMON of three way switch.
Power cable white to 14/3 white to fan/light.
F/L 14/3 black to other screw of fan switch.
F/L red to black from 14/3 to second switch.
Red and white from second switch 14/3 to traveller screws on light three way switch.
At second switch
Black to common screw
RED and white to traveller screws.
At fan/light (same at both)
Connect all blacks
Connect all whites
Connect fan/light blue wire to the red wire(s)
At all boxes connect all grounds together.
It looks like we forgot the originating box(power,3/w-3wto fan) sw1 Black pigtail to black14/3 TO sw2
tuck in box-- White and red FROM sw2 TO sw1 traveler screws-- red FROM fan/light to common screw on sw1.
I think we have it now, Draw it out , you'll see. Also you only need 1 dimmer sw. and 1-3 way toggle.
lectriclee
03-16-06, 09:13 AM
Sorry, Joed I just noticed you did cover the Light sw. common.